Bad Matchmaking Thread

Ever since ranked queue was removed the matchmaking has gone from terrible to egregious.

30437799 - Zero macro, zero map control. Basically sitting hostage in base all game.

30439463 - Phantom II game when I'm Oracle 1? Team was completely decimated in only 17 minutes. Why is this still happening? Gigantic skill disparity.

30578217 - Another stomp. It was so bad the winning team even gave the other team a chance to come back.

30581362 - Another stomp

30582857 - Another stomp

30604302 - Another terrible stomp. The Haze was brand new with zero macro ability and disconnected when the enemy reached our base.

**Changing the queues has made the overall matchmaking quality significantly worse**. It's also taking *longer* to find games.

The worst part is my rank is dropping because of these games and so are the teammate skill levels. Those high quality, fair games I was enjoying in ranked queue are now gone.

We're feeling too many effects in this shrinking player base. General matchmaking was bad enough when Deadlock had 3 times as many players. I can see why everyone is going to Marvel Rivals even though it's not nearly as mechanically interesting.
 
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30631831 seven paradox infenus had no idea what they were doing, vindicta had no macro. only dragged so long because the other team also had no idea how the game works. Oracle 4 average? The skill and gameplay knowledge was miles worse than that in Archon 1 lobbies.
 
30644763 - wildly varied skill levels
30643811 - everyone on enemy team left
30641423 - 5v6 for the entirety of post-laning, 4v6 if you count the new player on our team
30639622 - same as #1
30633521 - same as #1, our Kelvin racked up 7k souls by the end of match with 0 items bought in laning phase. this one's the most ridiculous since it's clearly the very first time he's playing while I have 250+ hours clocked in


appreciate the concern.
 
Would you please, for the love of god, finally fix the matchmaking. Every game is the same. EVERY GAME we have an uphill battle against much stronger enemies. Its not sometimes, EVERY GAME. We lose every lane, they are in our base when we dont even have their walkers. You can probably tell that this is not fun. Sometimes we can steal the win when they are too cocky, but we legit have NEVER EVER a chance. It is getting so boring, or do I dare to say frustrating? Why would anyone continue playing when the matchmaking is giving you a disadvantage in literally every game you play. I really love the game, but the game will probably bomb when you cant provide a fair matchmaking. And I would hate to see that.
 
These are with Extra Competitive on. I tried some matches at first with it off but was put in miserable games so I kept it on. Roughly 300 matches total, I have been at Ritualist * for awhile. I am not great but am not bad, I tend to play support which I like. But I certainly know what it takes to win, strategies, do and don'ts but still seem to be paired with and against people who seem clueless.

1. 30611690- The oh so balanced Haze mega farms with lucky shot and ricochet totally ruining the match balance
2. 30613055- My team was disjointed, were hardly together and going off on their own, other team stuck together like glue and ganked the hell out of my team
3. 30561610- Self evident skill gap
4. 30521462- My team had no carry players, just fed the other team, other team had heavy carries.
5. 30510595- My team stomped the others with little effort, I usually don't perform this well, it felt like I was playing against fairly new players.
6. 30511903- Big skill and soul gap, other team could've ended it sooner but spent a lot of time farming up.
7. 30509491- Other team preyed upon again by the oh so balanced Haze, didn't help they were pretty bad skill wise too
8. 30508404- Everyone on my team had a negative k/d, no one on the other team had a negative k/d
9. 30452581- Everyone on the other team had a negative k/d, only one on my team. Other team was not coordinated
10. 30451077- My team was on the defensive the whole time, which allowed for their OH SO BALANCED HAZE to mega farm with ricochet and lucky shot to end the game with a stomp.
11. 30188475- Heavy carries on my team made for an easy win.
12. 30186733- Warden on the other team was paired with a useless team
13. 30185436- Lash on my team dominated
14. 30042994- Massive soul and skill gap again
15. 30041173- My team fed the others smooth brain
16. 30247906- Match lasted 17 minutes due to ALL the carries on my team

Day of a 12/06 patch, Extra competitive off
17. 29982979- Miserable 80k soul spread

I was going to post some match IDs of ones I thought were balanced at the time, but looked back and couldn't consider them as such. Balanced matches overall are hard to find and became much more difficult after the 12/06 patch. Someone on my server uninstalled the game due to this patch. He was Ascendent 5 but got knocked down to Ascendent 2 because he was put on so many losing teams. This is a screenshot from him. This is gonna be my last week playing the game, then I am going on a hiatus. I really do like the game which is why I still play it despite the player count dropping. I will only be coming back when I can confirm the matchmaking balance as been resolved. The most fun games are when both team are similar in skill. They invade our base, we invade theirs, close calls etc. is super fun. One sided stomps are not fun on either side. Before adding new heroes, skins, items and so on, PLEASE fix the matchmaking balance. If it does not get fixed the game will bleed out and I won't be coming back.
 

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Yoshi said:
Use this thread to share matchids for games that you think the matchmaker did a bad job at. If you can explain what you felt was a problem in it that would be helpful as well.

Do not post matchids for games that were within the past 24 hours from this post. Games older than that are fine and games going forward are fine.

Thanks for the help
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30648860 maybe don't make matchups like this were you literally just fucking can't.
 
Yet another "backend update" and yet another loss streak with absolutely unwinnable games. Look at the rank variance.1734582102248.png
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i haven't had a game that felt good in over a month. most of my games are my team losing every single lane, multiple games in a row. not even fun losses
a few examples: first 3 are games in a row 💀 30663107 , 30458268 , 30188703 , 28973167, 28752373 , 28539176
 
Yoshi said:
Use this thread to share matchids for games that you think the matchmaker did a bad job at. If you can explain what you felt was a problem in it that would be helpful as well.

Do not post matchids for games that were within the past 24 hours from this post. Games older than that are fine and games going forward are fine.

Thanks for the help
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Every game I play now, someone leaves, says safe to abandon, yet im deranking, ive nuked 6 ranks cause of this every game, pretty close to not playing, cause as I drop, the players become worse and it isnt my fault... yeah im crying, this mm is horrible.
 
after almost 500 hours, i give up
the game has good mechanics, but the trash matchmaking is really unbearable and has removed all joy i had for this game
i am always paired with 5 players who have no brain, while the best players of the server are always on the enemy team

i have uninstalled it and will not be returning
thanks for the 100 out of 500 hours of fun i guess
 
The worst part is - the matchmaking two months ago was much better than this. Enemy team is always much stronger, plays better together, while in my team people are farming till we have no walkers left and we cant even beat two of their walkers before they have our patron down and finish. Great experience, great matchmaking. And it is not like I am underperforming, I always have the highest damage for objective / player, have good farm, try to help as good as I can. I have 10 kills average per game. Yet I get the most braindead people in my team while the other team just has an easy game against us. My Win-Loss dynamics are -8 for the last 10 games. Win 2 with luck in an uphill battle and lose 8 while the enemy has the easiest game of their life.
 
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Our team was 0 and 18 at around 12 minutes in. We didn't even unlock a flex slot before they had already pushed in walker.

All lanes lost incredibly badly. At 1 point the enemy team had almost twice as many souls as ours did and it only turned around because they took pity on us and intentionally dropped the urn off next to the drop off for us to take. Awful game
 
30685057

Complete trainwreck of a match which ended in 14 minutes and where half of our team didn't have 8k souls by that point. My lane (me + Vindicta) were the only lanes that weren't a complete failure (Haze had 700 souls at a point where the opposing Pocket had 6k, etc)
 
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