Bad Matchmaking Thread
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same cheater in both games
steam profile: https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561199591195616/
his stats: https://tracklock.gg/players/1630929888
aimbot and wallhack in both games
30684990
same cheater in both games
steam profile: https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561199591195616/
his stats: https://tracklock.gg/players/1630929888
aimbot and wallhack in both games
Internet Hate Machine
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wtf is this
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tonieschonies
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Match ID: 31033112
It's hard to express complaint when knowing I'm not doing my part fully to 'try' during the game. i.e. talking through the mic and not only using the ping system. Though I will say that I rarely have the 'competitive queue' checked because I don't always want to communicate through VC. I do try to use my pings to help others look at the map (it really feels like people don't look enough). The biggest issues I've been having in my games is my teammates' game sense. I feel like I know when we should be pushing a lane to farm/get towers or defending instead of farming. Knowing when to start playing together and not go off alone without at least communicating in some way what they are doing. I try to help my teammates in fights or if they are getting ganked. Sometimes I catch it and can help and other times I am of no help and instead end up feeding. (still learning too)
It just feels like people focus too much on PvP and not enough on towers/creeps. It feels like when you're newer at the game you focus on kills rather than objectives. Also a 'new player' doesn't get the timings of things like mid, when to group, urn, pushing lanes, etc.
I use those examples because that is how I played when I first started. My friend who played MOBAS really helped me learn the timings and corrected me about what to focus on. (I'm sure those were not fun games for him)
Team Comp felt balanced.
-didn't have a team comp like in this match (id:31037017) where it felt like they just had the front line and we had a "front line". Maybe if it was other players it could've been the total opposite. I don't know. It just didn't feel very balanced.
tl;dr - team didn't feel like they knew what they were doing fully or how to adjust to what's happening in the match
It's hard to express complaint when knowing I'm not doing my part fully to 'try' during the game. i.e. talking through the mic and not only using the ping system. Though I will say that I rarely have the 'competitive queue' checked because I don't always want to communicate through VC. I do try to use my pings to help others look at the map (it really feels like people don't look enough). The biggest issues I've been having in my games is my teammates' game sense. I feel like I know when we should be pushing a lane to farm/get towers or defending instead of farming. Knowing when to start playing together and not go off alone without at least communicating in some way what they are doing. I try to help my teammates in fights or if they are getting ganked. Sometimes I catch it and can help and other times I am of no help and instead end up feeding. (still learning too)
It just feels like people focus too much on PvP and not enough on towers/creeps. It feels like when you're newer at the game you focus on kills rather than objectives. Also a 'new player' doesn't get the timings of things like mid, when to group, urn, pushing lanes, etc.
I use those examples because that is how I played when I first started. My friend who played MOBAS really helped me learn the timings and corrected me about what to focus on. (I'm sure those were not fun games for him)
Team Comp felt balanced.
-didn't have a team comp like in this match (id:31037017) where it felt like they just had the front line and we had a "front line". Maybe if it was other players it could've been the total opposite. I don't know. It just didn't feel very balanced.
tl;dr - team didn't feel like they knew what they were doing fully or how to adjust to what's happening in the match
ShatteredHero
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Match ID: 31034216
This is a mid Emissary match and the Mirage, "Murk" was so insanely good I immediately had me and my friend look at the global leader board to see if he was on there and low and behold number 37 on North America is Murk (see screenshot). Now I cannot see if sure if this was the same Murk, but I notice him twice doing movements there I knew he was way better then me and that he know the game (aka had to be skill, not hacks).
Once again, this match was listed as Emissary 3, AKA bottom 40% of the player base, and the 37th best player was in the game. And to cut off the other arguments, there was no terrible player on there team to balance it out. If anything the other player enemy players seemed noticeably better then the rest of us, but was hard to tell in the stomp. Only Murk showed his prowess in unmistakable ways that I knew something was up. The only example I will type is when running backwards from our base, Mirage doubled jumped perfectly to get on the bridge (Aka he did it blindly).
This is a mid Emissary match and the Mirage, "Murk" was so insanely good I immediately had me and my friend look at the global leader board to see if he was on there and low and behold number 37 on North America is Murk (see screenshot). Now I cannot see if sure if this was the same Murk, but I notice him twice doing movements there I knew he was way better then me and that he know the game (aka had to be skill, not hacks).
Once again, this match was listed as Emissary 3, AKA bottom 40% of the player base, and the 37th best player was in the game. And to cut off the other arguments, there was no terrible player on there team to balance it out. If anything the other player enemy players seemed noticeably better then the rest of us, but was hard to tell in the stomp. Only Murk showed his prowess in unmistakable ways that I knew something was up. The only example I will type is when running backwards from our base, Mirage doubled jumped perfectly to get on the bridge (Aka he did it blindly).
cacatua242
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Matchmaking is hilariously bad at the moment. I am jumping between Phantom 1 and 3 every few matches. The only conclusion I can draw is that the game is trying to pull whoever it can into a match to keep queue times from getting too long. Even if those players are multiple ranks above or below you. Consistently bad matches lead to a smaller player base from which to draw people for balanced matches. This wasn't a problem in late October through most of November. There is no point in posting match IDs since this has been a recurring issue for such a long time. Chances are the devs already know this, though they won't have to fix it for now since they can increase the player base by advertising the game for free on their own platform. Valve, please fix.
justis9042
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Match ID: 31054762
Super stomp. Finished the game in 18 minutes. Other side didn't even get a guardian till minions took one by accident as we were finishing their patron.
Super stomp. Finished the game in 18 minutes. Other side didn't even get a guardian till minions took one by accident as we were finishing their patron.
dash_javen
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Well, back-to-back games with really big skill difference between teams, and at this point it's making me feel that the matchmaking system has for whatever reason stopped trying to balance the skill differences of players. The only "balance" aspect of it is the average skill between two teams, and honestly, this is bullshit. It is so obvious in these games where they have a team with a more balanced skill difference, while the other team has only one player that is clearly way better than the rest of the team but their average skill total match with the opposing team. Once again, this is bullshit. Games like this are not enjoyable to play at all, not a single bit, be it in a winning game or the losing game. Out of the 15 or so games I have been playing, only 3 or 4 games that I had are games with more similarly skilled players getting placed in one game, and this is pathetic. Yes the number of players have dropped significantly compared to maybe a month ago, but I don't think the player number has gone down so much that it is so difficult to match players who are similarly skilled into one game.
2 weeks, 2 weeks have I complaint about this issue, but I have yet to see any changes at all, and instead I find this issue getting worse and worse. Sometimes I really wonder if the devs indeed didn't want the players to enjoy the game at all or not. Of course I know this is not the case, but their lack of care seems to suggest that this is indeed the case. With the game being in alpha and everyone could use the excuse of "this is an alpha game" for every single shortcomings, I'd rather have this game to officially enter its beta stage so that the devs could get more pressure to improve the game more. At the current stage, I don't feel the devs are motivated enough to improve this game further.
31062653
Well, back-to-back games with really big skill difference between teams, and at this point it's making me feel that the matchmaking system has for whatever reason stopped trying to balance the skill differences of players. The only "balance" aspect of it is the average skill between two teams, and honestly, this is bullshit. It is so obvious in these games where they have a team with a more balanced skill difference, while the other team has only one player that is clearly way better than the rest of the team but their average skill total match with the opposing team. Once again, this is bullshit. Games like this are not enjoyable to play at all, not a single bit, be it in a winning game or the losing game. Out of the 15 or so games I have been playing, only 3 or 4 games that I had are games with more similarly skilled players getting placed in one game, and this is pathetic. Yes the number of players have dropped significantly compared to maybe a month ago, but I don't think the player number has gone down so much that it is so difficult to match players who are similarly skilled into one game.
2 weeks, 2 weeks have I complaint about this issue, but I have yet to see any changes at all, and instead I find this issue getting worse and worse. Sometimes I really wonder if the devs indeed didn't want the players to enjoy the game at all or not. Of course I know this is not the case, but their lack of care seems to suggest that this is indeed the case. With the game being in alpha and everyone could use the excuse of "this is an alpha game" for every single shortcomings, I'd rather have this game to officially enter its beta stage so that the devs could get more pressure to improve the game more. At the current stage, I don't feel the devs are motivated enough to improve this game further.
SigleTroll
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So, at first I thought it was me, learning the game.
Now that I think I know what I'm doing at my skill level, it is obvious there are some serious balance issues in the matchmaking system. I'm in a losing streak hell, just being stomped game after game. The other team gets a double souls count lead in the early game and they just faceroll the thing.
The wins didn't seem fair either, it's just a case of who gets more feeders / disconnects.
It is so bad I felt I had to create an account to post here ... and also say this has burned me. I'm giving it a fews weeks / months (years ?) before playing it again. Guess this won't help the player base issue.
I have an addictive personnality for these kind of games, but it is so unbalanced and frustrating that now it just feels toxic to play.
Now that I think I know what I'm doing at my skill level, it is obvious there are some serious balance issues in the matchmaking system. I'm in a losing streak hell, just being stomped game after game. The other team gets a double souls count lead in the early game and they just faceroll the thing.
The wins didn't seem fair either, it's just a case of who gets more feeders / disconnects.
It is so bad I felt I had to create an account to post here ... and also say this has burned me. I'm giving it a fews weeks / months (years ?) before playing it again. Guess this won't help the player base issue.
I have an addictive personnality for these kind of games, but it is so unbalanced and frustrating that now it just feels toxic to play.
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