Bad Matchmaking Thread
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OdinVertbotenTV
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Match: 28446517 The matchmaking in this game is complete dogshit. 0-7 Infernus in lane phase and two teammates in separate lanes with no obj damage over 24 minutes. 
skaterguy173
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28447591
Game was really one sided, my game crashed and put me down a ton in souls. Overall unbalanced
Game was really one sided, my game crashed and put me down a ton in souls. Overall unbalanced
those players are playing their calibration games to give them a rank, you dont work your way up from the bottom
Emily Vasquez
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Just an utter dogshit match through and through. Shiv and Ivy carried them [ID: 28457355]
EDIT: The next match I was in was ten times worse than this one. Everyone kept getting fed on the other team, p much all interactions lead to death, and didn't even manage to get their walkers once. 0/10 trash ass match. [ID: 28459288]
EDIT: The next match I was in was ten times worse than this one. Everyone kept getting fed on the other team, p much all interactions lead to death, and didn't even manage to get their walkers once. 0/10 trash ass match. [ID: 28459288]
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Even after the rank balance today. this match up just doesnt make sense regarding ranks. yes, this is OCE. I understand lower player count. which is why sometimes before today we'd see phantoms, emissary's and sometimes alchemists in the same lobbies. but what is this? swap some reds for some purps to even it out a bit? (my other games today have been very rank even)
Even after the rank balance today. this match up just doesnt make sense regarding ranks. yes, this is OCE. I understand lower player count. which is why sometimes before today we'd see phantoms, emissary's and sometimes alchemists in the same lobbies. but what is this? swap some reds for some purps to even it out a bit? (my other games today have been very rank even)
khangtokhang
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28460553Use this thread to share matchids for games that you think the matchmaker did a bad job at. If you can explain what you felt was a problem in it that would be helpful as well.
Do not post matchids for games that were within the past 24 hours from this post. Games older than that are fine and games going forward are fine.
Thanks for the help
Just one example from Hong Kong server. I don't know, but many of the matches from this server are like this. The whole team is like a newbie to everything in the game, denying soul, teleport, farming, while the other team is playing like a pro and destroying every lane. There are the problems with these players and their ranking
noahreyes23
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and calibration games should be with others who are doing the same? I dont understand the disconnect here. For example If someone is unranked in an eternus rank and not calibrated then its disrupting the game for others if they clearly dont belong through their gameplay and lack of game sense. The inverse is the same, someone in the 3rd lowest rank, who clearly is good and knows much more about the game then opponents and even team will not learn or feel their gameplay/rank matters if anyone can join it
messiah4hire
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Someone help me, I am starting to lose faith. Supposedly solo queue ranked I would be low phantom high oracle, yet the game can't find me any winning matches in unranked with casual friends?
walfegood46
New member
Since the 19th, there has been a huge shift in matchmaking quality.
Every match is a one sided stomp vs a challenging back and forth.
Majority of the players in my matches, on either team, never bother to itemize for any form of defense or counter play and proceed to get decimated again and again.
Every win you see here is because someone on the enemy team abandoned, hence the short match times.
In every single match there were clear outliers on both teams with far too low of a skill level for the match they were in.
Match ID:
28352562
28354064
28354432
28356355
28365041
28366079
28367661
28393460
28397007
28402623
28404481
28468447
And here is a quick few samples of them
Every match is a one sided stomp vs a challenging back and forth.
Majority of the players in my matches, on either team, never bother to itemize for any form of defense or counter play and proceed to get decimated again and again.
Every win you see here is because someone on the enemy team abandoned, hence the short match times.
In every single match there were clear outliers on both teams with far too low of a skill level for the match they were in.
Match ID:
28352562
28354064
28354432
28356355
28365041
28366079
28367661
28393460
28397007
28402623
28404481
28468447
And here is a quick few samples of them
DareThePolarBear
New member
As some background, I've been grinding Deadlock almost daily since I got it around August 25th, with friends at times as well as solo ranked and unranked at with over 140 hours at the time of writing. I have concerns about how Ranked system is currently and how it is currently not working as intended for me and a lot of other mutuals that I know well. I intend to prove this objectively with metrics, match IDs and facts rather than just our opinions.
I feel that even though I disagree with some character philosophies of being good all game (current McGinnis and Infernus, old Shiv) instead of having their own niches in the game (Abrams early-mid, Kelvin Mid-Late, Warden Late), overall you devs as a dev team have done a great job on balancing the characters in a positive trendline, especially in the last two weeks.
The ranked system however has been tested extensively and it has provided too much variance in matchups. You will commonly get lobbies in ranked with people from Initiate all the way through Alchemist and sometimes even Archon. Deadlock is a Third-Person Shooter but primarily works on MOBA mechanics so it's not feasible to solo-carry every game like other games especially in a Solo Ranked mode where there is no guarantee your teammates will work together or even communicate. As such, why is there an overly high emphasis on K/D/A and Player damage which are rather risky, rather the potential of properly learning game mechanics and the map and how to most efficiently become strong every game with the Map rather than risk dying and feeding the enemy team precious souls and waves of creeps. FredTheFinch has made a groundbreaking video on this core Deadlock idealogy (linked below).
As such, I've played games from Initiate to Oracle rank, how can this be the the case from the very bottom of the ranks to near the top? I've also tried to consistently perform and carry getting between 1st - 3rd on Deadlock's objective metrics every ranked game in terms of souls (MVPs and trying to get as many objectives as possible) and almost always KDA too. I've played a variety of characters too from Abrams, Wraith and Seven very frequently to show depth of understanding of game mechanics. Here are some matches showing proof of stark rank disparity going on in Deadlock for me:
Match IDs:
24570221 - Initiate V
24432001 - Arcanist I
24243961 - Arcanist V (with Archon IV player)
23999213 - Emissary IV (with Oracle and Phantom players)
22126157 - Archon III (with 4 Phantom and Oracle players)
How can one person queue into so many different ranks and still play fine / elevate to the level of the game? Well for me the case was that I play often as a In-Game Leader (IGL) role and am usually the one who is giving the most comms while trying to elevate the level of my team. I also get better experiences with this playstyle with better players as they show better team skill, and perform better with communication, but regardless of performing, I got punished unequivocally hard for my losses since we couldn't clench many games in the solo Ranked game mode regardless of the fact that I usually performed even in the higher rank games. And this is the case with a lot of a lot of my friends as well, that have their suspicions and concerns with the rank system. So for these above reasons, I believe I and many others definitely shouldn't be in the very bottom rank bracket of Initiate as I have shown I can perform in some of the highest echelons of the ranks such as Archon - Phantom, as well as, the issues that a lot of the community is facing, especially given our experience and game knowledge at this point in the game. Hope this helps cater and better the ranking system.
Thanks for listening to me and my teams concerns, and I hope it can help your team because I REALLY DO BELIEVE THIS GAME HAS SOMETHING SPECIAL. I also would like to emphasise and appreciate how much your dev team has listened to and improved on feedback, which is not something that every game's dev team does which has ruined a lot of games' balance. Feel free to write me back if you felt I brought some insight and keep me updated.
With Best Regards,
DareThePolarBear
Some videos that I think adds context on this matter is this:
The SAD TRUTH About Deadlock's Ranked System by ottr
How to Have the MOST Souls in EVERY Game by FredTheFinch
I feel that even though I disagree with some character philosophies of being good all game (current McGinnis and Infernus, old Shiv) instead of having their own niches in the game (Abrams early-mid, Kelvin Mid-Late, Warden Late), overall you devs as a dev team have done a great job on balancing the characters in a positive trendline, especially in the last two weeks.
The ranked system however has been tested extensively and it has provided too much variance in matchups. You will commonly get lobbies in ranked with people from Initiate all the way through Alchemist and sometimes even Archon. Deadlock is a Third-Person Shooter but primarily works on MOBA mechanics so it's not feasible to solo-carry every game like other games especially in a Solo Ranked mode where there is no guarantee your teammates will work together or even communicate. As such, why is there an overly high emphasis on K/D/A and Player damage which are rather risky, rather the potential of properly learning game mechanics and the map and how to most efficiently become strong every game with the Map rather than risk dying and feeding the enemy team precious souls and waves of creeps. FredTheFinch has made a groundbreaking video on this core Deadlock idealogy (linked below).
As such, I've played games from Initiate to Oracle rank, how can this be the the case from the very bottom of the ranks to near the top? I've also tried to consistently perform and carry getting between 1st - 3rd on Deadlock's objective metrics every ranked game in terms of souls (MVPs and trying to get as many objectives as possible) and almost always KDA too. I've played a variety of characters too from Abrams, Wraith and Seven very frequently to show depth of understanding of game mechanics. Here are some matches showing proof of stark rank disparity going on in Deadlock for me:
Match IDs:
24570221 - Initiate V
24432001 - Arcanist I
24243961 - Arcanist V (with Archon IV player)
23999213 - Emissary IV (with Oracle and Phantom players)
22126157 - Archon III (with 4 Phantom and Oracle players)
How can one person queue into so many different ranks and still play fine / elevate to the level of the game? Well for me the case was that I play often as a In-Game Leader (IGL) role and am usually the one who is giving the most comms while trying to elevate the level of my team. I also get better experiences with this playstyle with better players as they show better team skill, and perform better with communication, but regardless of performing, I got punished unequivocally hard for my losses since we couldn't clench many games in the solo Ranked game mode regardless of the fact that I usually performed even in the higher rank games. And this is the case with a lot of a lot of my friends as well, that have their suspicions and concerns with the rank system. So for these above reasons, I believe I and many others definitely shouldn't be in the very bottom rank bracket of Initiate as I have shown I can perform in some of the highest echelons of the ranks such as Archon - Phantom, as well as, the issues that a lot of the community is facing, especially given our experience and game knowledge at this point in the game. Hope this helps cater and better the ranking system.
Thanks for listening to me and my teams concerns, and I hope it can help your team because I REALLY DO BELIEVE THIS GAME HAS SOMETHING SPECIAL. I also would like to emphasise and appreciate how much your dev team has listened to and improved on feedback, which is not something that every game's dev team does which has ruined a lot of games' balance. Feel free to write me back if you felt I brought some insight and keep me updated.
With Best Regards,
DareThePolarBear
Some videos that I think adds context on this matter is this:
The SAD TRUTH About Deadlock's Ranked System by ottr
How to Have the MOST Souls in EVERY Game by FredTheFinch
S100kil1s
Active member
Smurf clearly.
Will be placed in higher lobby after couple wins
It's very obvious that Amber exploits the party matchmaker to get games to their favor, or your matchmaker doesn't work. Either start making the skill distribution to make this impossible or don't even bother releasing the game.
Take your pick. Call it frivolous reporting all you want, but I am going to start reporting these teams for cheating. It's very obvious they're exploiting the system to their favor and I'm fucking tired of it.
Take your pick. Call it frivolous reporting all you want, but I am going to start reporting these teams for cheating. It's very obvious they're exploiting the system to their favor and I'm fucking tired of it.
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