Bad Matchmaking Thread

Used to win games majority of the time but its been like a week on an infinite loss streak. I play with a friend and we always win our lane or are the last ones with our guardian still up. Teammates never do objectives or don't even bother to defend our walkers so me and my duo find ourselves constantly running from lane to lane trying to defend. Really feels like i'm playing a 2v6. We get haze, wraith and bebop users who go the entire game without a single kill and 10+ deaths. What happened? Feels like i'm playing with people more clueless than bots.
 
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Standard unranked match
- 102k souls vs. 24k
- Opponents did not get a single objective
- Enemy team only got 1 kill, as opposed to our 31
- Opponents lost every lane by a large amount

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Yoshi said:
Use this thread to share matchids for games that you think the matchmaker did a bad job at. If you can explain what you felt was a problem in it that would be helpful as well.

Do not post matchids for games that were within the past 24 hours from this post. Games older than that are fine and games going forward are fine.

Thanks for the help
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Couldn't agree more. Matchmaking has been get rolled or be the one rolling. Never anything inbetween.
 
adamski500 said:
So I've tried to be a bit more open minded recently as I noticed that you have removed the "high skill difference" warning in parties, and I was thinking something was fixed. However, tonight confirms that matchmaking remains a real pain point for this game and is desperate need of attention. Getting a somewhat even match where plays actually matter is a real rarity these days. The stomps appear to be in either direction.

More oddly, recently (last 3 days or so), I have noticed that the game is match making my brother and I into very high end lobbies, despite the fact it is evident neither of us belong there. We do not have ranks anywhere near the people in these lobbies. My brother is unranked, and my rank when I last bothered obtaining is Archon 5. Yet we have been placed into casual games against high Phantoms, and today even a lobby where some opposing players are Ascendant rank. This is atrocious, and has pretty much destroyed any game play experience these last few days.

Game ID:

28313596. A complete and utter stomp, very apparent we don't belong there. We were decimated with little chance.
27937183. Same as above.

27813032. A complete and utter stomp, but the other way. The enemy team were squashed.
27809284. Same as above, enemy team completely squashed and didn't stand a chance.


These are just some examples I have noted but there are other games, again going both ways.

Please can there be some public comms about the state of match making, just so we know what the Dev team thoughts are, particularly with the evidence you are able to assess? A game where it is even on both sides and the skill bracket doesn't feel at a crazy differential is becoming exceedingly rare. I appreciate you and the team are busy with a huge pipeline of things, but match making is pivotal to a game of this nature, and it feels as if it has been completely out of tune since ranked was launched several weeks ago.

I am curious to know if the dev team are in agreement this is currently a broken system?
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Just want to validate what you're saying even if they wont. I feel like there are long stretches where I am fed to the highest elo lobbies with ascendants and phantoms and despite my now negative win rate and on a loss streak there is no abatement, just game after game of being raked over the coals. There is something undeniably defective with this iteration of matchmaking and it started 12 days ago.
 
Yoshi said:
Use this thread to share matchids for games that you think the matchmaker did a bad job at. If you can explain what you felt was a problem in it that would be helpful as well.

Do not post matchids for games that were within the past 24 hours from this post. Games older than that are fine and games going forward are fine.

Thanks for the help
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its just a gamble playing with the current mmr. You either stomp or get stomped. ZERO IN BETWEEN. Both in ranked and unranked. I don't know how aware the devs are of this issue but I've never seen a game with this many issues regarding matchmaking and while it's in Alpha or Beta or whatever they need to fix this for sure because it's miserable. Getting put with crap teammates every game and ALWAYS having to be the carry is lame.
 
These are consecutive games, 2 days ago

Unranked, Duo queue, 65% winrate, 220+ games played.

28061260 - 24 minutes game 55k souls difference
28058184 - 21 minutes game, 52k souls difference
28054906 - 25 minutes game 47k souls difference

non-consecutive / outliers / mix of duo/trio/quad-queue

28300350 - 25 minutes game, 26k souls difference, but felt worse
27790820 - 19 minutes game, 49k souls difference
27680103 - 20 minutes game, only 22k difference but felt worse
25653360 - 22 minutes game, 50k souls difference

6 stack - low sample size, huge skill gaps in every game, souls gap not huge showing due to 1/2 players on one team being entirely new

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Yoshi said:
Use this thread to share matchids for games that you think the matchmaker did a bad job at. If you can explain what you felt was a problem in it that would be helpful as well.

Do not post matchids for games that were within the past 24 hours from this post. Games older than that are fine and games going forward are fine.

Thanks for the help
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Honestly dont even know if its MM or just how the game plays RN but it's un-fun.
 
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felt miserable of a game as it was a complete struggle for 90% of the game. Main reason we won was the enemy feeding at the end
Also I deselected the character and it still gave me that character

+ latency difference is way too much in this game where my skills dont even proc
 
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Min 17-18 the enemy team has all their guardians and we lost all walkers. huge souls diference and even they did urn in our side easily. Very bad matchmaking

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Played this almost every single day.
Sure you get the odd near gamebreaking issue (Bepop being cancer) but still played.
But now the MM is so f$%#%ng awful that every game I play its a complete and utter stomp.
And one team seems to get 2 people who have never played the game before.
Unplayable until its fixed.
 
Match ID 28430705 1st game I get paired with
Seven 0-12, Wraith 2-8

Match ID 28433225 Immediately game after I get paired with:
Seven 1-13, Wraith 0-11

Game is intentionally making me lose. This is just incredible.

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FOUR FCKING CONSECUTIVE GAMES WITH TEAMMATES WITH SUCH HORRIBLE KDS.

ALL THESE I'VE BEEN POSITIVE BUT ALWAYS 2-3 TEAMMATES THAT MAKE THIS IMPOSSIBLE.

THE OTHER TEAM HAS ONE MAX THAT IS NOT DOING SO GREAT.

HOW THE FUCK AM I SUPPOSED TO WIN THIS?

JUST BE TRANSPARENT. THE SYSTEM IS JUST PUTING TOXIC OR BAD PLAYERS TOGETHER INTENTIONALLY.


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0-12 SEVEN, 18K SOULS
2-8 WRATIH

28433225
1-13 SEVEN
0-11 WRAITH

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1-8 MO
2-8 DYNAMO
0-3 VISCOUS WHO DISCONNECTED BTW

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0-9 ABRAMS WHO KEPT DISCONNECTING
2-10 BEBOP

HOLY FUCK YOUR MATCHMAKING SUCKS.

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28438766 ranked play

hey guess what yall still cant fucking calibrate ranked play. Two guys on our team unranked and lost us the game, no comms, no strategy, walker lost healt at 12 mins and we couldnt hold after that early start. so guess what im going to do what i did on my last one. Spam the message till its fixed and if this happens again ill continue bc this is the easiest fix in history. UNRANKED = TEAM AND GAMES WITH OTHER UNRANKED PLAYERS. RANKED = TEAM AND GAMES WITH RANKED PLAYERS UNRANKED = TEAM AND GAMES WITH OTHER UNRANKED PLAYERS. RANKED = TEAM AND GAMES WITH RANKED PLAYERSUNRANKED = TEAM AND GAMES WITH OTHER UNRANKED PLAYERS. RANKED = TEAM AND GAMES WITH RANKED PLAYERSUNRANKED = TEAM AND GAMES WITH OTHER UNRANKED PLAYERS. RANKED = TEAM AND GAMES WITH RANKED PLAYERSUNRANKED = TEAM AND GAMES WITH OTHER UNRANKED PLAYERS. RANKED = TEAM AND GAMES WITH RANKED PLAYERSUNRANKED = TEAM AND GAMES WITH OTHER UNRANKED PLAYERS. RANKED = TEAM AND GAMES WITH RANKED PLAYERS UNRANKED = TEAM AND GAMES WITH OTHER UNRANKED PLAYERS. RANKED = TEAM AND GAMES WITH RANKED PLAYERS UNRANKED = TEAM AND GAMES WITH OTHER UNRANKED PLAYERS. RANKED = TEAM AND GAMES WITH RANKED PLAYERSUNRANKED = TEAM AND GAMES WITH OTHER UNRANKED PLAYERS. RANKED = TEAM AND GAMES WITH RANKED PLAYERSUNRANKED = TEAM AND GAMES WITH OTHER UNRANKED PLAYERS. RANKED = TEAM AND GAMES WITH RANKED PLAYERSUNRANKED = TEAM AND GAMES WITH OTHER UNRANKED PLAYERS. RANKED = TEAM AND GAMES WITH RANKED PLAYERSUNRANKED = TEAM AND GAMES WITH OTHER UNRANKED PLAYERS. RANKED = TEAM AND GAMES WITH RANKED PLAYERS
 
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