Bad Matchmaking Thread

[Chatbrun13]

Hello,

I'm writting this post because I'm put in Oracle 1 matches while playing new Heros for the first time and get my ass handed to me. Why ?

Because I was Ritualist at Max when playing my main . And now I find myself in Oracle lobby (don't know why) and lose every-single-time. Can I come back to Ritualist please

 

[Domineeriv]

Match ID 59068930
Match ID 58850001

Two extremely unpleasant matches where there was no coming back, the game was extremely lop-sided and unpleasant from the beginning. Especially in the top on there was almost a 100k soul lead for the enemy team, which felt like it shouldn't be possible at all.

 

[Calibrate]

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completely one sided match.

 

[𝐌𝐢𝐧𝐚 𝐇𝐚]

Use this thread to share matchids for games that you think the matchmaker did a bad job at. If you can explain what you felt was a problem in it that would be helpful as well.

Do not post matchids for games that were within the past 24 hours from this post. Games older than that are fine and games going forward are fine.

Thanks for the help

Completely unfair matchmaking in this one.

59069826

Emissary 2 for the enemy team and Ritualist 5 on our team; I was Ritualist 4 during this match.
We had two people who contributed nothing. I assumed I was the lowest elo on my team and it gave us higher ones to balance it out, but the results speak for themselves.

I don't even understand why the game thought this was a fair matchup, I wasn't even on a winning streak. For games with wider matchmaking like this we shouldn't lose rank, especially if you didn't do bad.

The silver just kinda fed all game and was way overextended the entire time, Apollo was just having a hard time.
The three of us were all playing properly and doing well, but two dead weights made it impossible to win against a team that was all performing well.

 

[jurnieks1233]

So this is peak fun gameplay with great match making UFFFF

 

[x-trem007]

Invested approx 50-60h lately and went from Initiate to borderline Alchemist 1.

Honestly what I see is somehow bigger discrepancy despite of much longer queue times (Initiate took less then 2 min usually to start the game -> now it regularly takes 3-5 despite me adding 3 more heroes to legend pool of mine).

Also there are much more games where people somehow play like bots = worse than I have ever seen in Initiate level. Meanwhile better players are significantly better = more coordinated, advanced movement starts to appear regularly, much better accuracy.

And finally it is sad to see so many players who get triggered by comms - you asking to change lanes because one is weaker than other, not to lose them all, or suggest some tactics and getting instant "stfu" messages or voice comms. So much less was present in lower ranks. Not sure how in Beta testing community is already so typical of Overwatch or Apex aka hero ball + any communication in soloq triggers rage and brainless comments.

p.s. I was made aware of option where you can choose more competitive queue -> somehow after ticking that I feel like I get put in games where game expects me to carry bots vs actually putting me in overall more competitive teams. Maybe a bug.

 

[whyme--]

you can literally just look at my account and see how ass the matchmaking is. my friend has like 12 games played and is emissary, i have over 100 with close to 50% win rate and im alchemist 4. I STARTED SEEKER 1 BTW. i consistently derank but it takes multiple wins in a row to even rank up. i am consistently top of my team regardless of losses. its kinda a joke that im outperforming my team everygame yet they get their shit pushed in. game feels like hot ass to play.

 

[k2!]

Impossible to win.

3 animals on my team feed since min 1. We lost mid walker on min 6!!!

I tried to carry with haze and didnt even stand a chance at winning. Awful matchmaking.

Match Id: 59085754

How is this fair??????

I understand 1 person feeding. 2 people feeding. But 4 at once is impossible to do anything. Fuck your matchmaking honestly!

 

[oae3187]

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deranked for this btw

 

[TheMoobile]

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Dear Yoshi, I rarely complain about the match making because I know the game is still in development. But these past few days, the match making has been very miserable, all of the games that I've played has 10k souls gap at 15 mins. It's really un-enjoyable playing this type of matches

It's so sad... I really hope they fix this, I want to play the game and I enjoy it - but in it's current matchmaking state it's quite literally unplayable. And I mean that in the truest sense, if I was AFK and not playing the game I'd have the same impact on the game given the lobbies I'm being put in.

 

[TheMoobile]

You did bad too, bro. Looks like you belong there.

Ummm no...
That's not how this works.
If he doesn't perform he shouldn't be stuck in Ritualist, he should go lower into a rank where he is with players of EQUAL skill.

This is the problem the game has. If you don't perform you're stuck in the new inflated ranks and it refuses to demote you, so NO-ONE gets a fair lobby.

 

[TheMoobile]

Is there something wrong with the MM right now (today)?

I've had games where my team won't push, or they will go 0-15 and then say "sorry it's my first game".

Then I've gone to a few streams were people are talking about having a similar experience (teammates that are new to the game), and also seen some streamers get teammates that go 0-10 with little assists (meaning they aren't actively participating).

It just feels odd.

Yes. Very wrong. It happened around 9th Feb when they had an update and everyones ranks got inflated. People who were lower skilled and in comfortable ranks have been pushed into stupid ranks they don't belong.

A *real* example of this is I was in bottom 5% of players (that's okay, I was learning the game!) but NOW I've been pushed into bottom 25% of players (which, is a 5x improvement!) The issue is, I didn't get 5x better over-night, but the lobbies I've been placed into are.

So what do you expect happens? That's right. I get outclassed every game and destroyed. Because, again, I am a bottom 5% player (I'm still learning the game!!!) and EVEN WORSE the game refuses to demote me back to that rank!!!

It's insanity. And unplayable.

 

[nembert]

Match ID: 59103821

Whatever was done to the ranks has majorly screwed things up. I have nearly 150 hours in the game and I'm apparently in Emissary IV which doesn't sound right to begin with, but as it turns out at least the Haze and the Silver on my team were only starting the game!! Haze had about 20 hours, the Silver had about 40 I believe- and they said they had both been placed in Archon somehow? None of it computes. I'm not trying to say "oh my team sucks that's why I lost" because I don't think I should be in Emissary either, but also I definitely should not be paired with players who just started out?

 

[kirbychwan]

59108551

9 kills vs 50 kills

coughing babies vs a 5-stack of smurfs

 

[k2!]

I will report this awful matchmaking even if I win.

I won this barely and I mean barely while sweating my ass off.

Hello Mr. Developer,

Are you going to fix the matchmaking or not?

Also, Apollo is extremely broken.

F*ck you!

 

[brainshack]

 

[flint.wongkh]

yo @Yoshi thank you for b2b loses. Please tell me how is my team balanced and ascendant because they don't play like ascendants. You just be giving anyone ascendant these days huh? But i appreciate you taking the time to make the matchmaking worse. Truly one of a kind. Team isn't balanced, draft isn't balanced, team is losing more than 15% within first 15 minutes. It already sets the tone but I don't think you care tbh.

 

[Ravaanos.Sarivur]

Impossible to win.

3 animals on my team feed since min 1. We lost mid walker on min 6!!!

I tried to carry with haze and didnt even stand a chance at winning. Awful matchmaking.

Match Id: 59085754

How is this fair??????

I understand 1 person feeding. 2 people feeding. But 4 at once is impossible to do anything. Fuck your matchmaking honestly!

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my brother in christ.. its arcanist... and you seem not know how to build for full carry yourself... You could carry it easily. it's on you tbh.
you build titanic mag, cdr, expansion, stamina mastery, leech, cheat death on haze... vs nearly full spirit nuke team.. where is frenzy, where is spell breaker, where is spirit resil? at least got silencer- good. cheat death- meh. expansion does nothing pretty much, better get warpstone if u wanna not let people jump out of your ult and or capacitor. if you want spirit for longer ults and more bullets- better get surge of power on knife, and stuff like curse, focus lense, slowing hex, boundless. but usually you will have 1, 2, or 3 maxmum spirit items.. want more lifesteal?- better get vamp burst, leech is cool and all, but ultra late if you have slots for it, but better get more fire-rate. toxic can be nice- but no1 of them builds hp and has bare minimum of green investment.. get penetration (crippling headshot or bullet resist shreder if u can land knifes well) or more fire-rate. Coz even if they don't buy bullet resists- you can reduce their resists to negative. Penetration is a multiplicative multiplier to your damage.
you could just become unkillable for them and hunt them down 1 by 1 or ult entire teams solo winning the game. Can ask team to be the bait for lash ult, or just let them get ulted by lash, clean up yourself right after... but....
and your ritualist game- glass cannon is not great on haze.. like at all.. and SB bth.. but when you get this many kills- maybe worth if you giga carry. Glass cannon makes your 20 damage bullets do 30.. wow. cool 6.4k nice. and yet again cheat death...

 

[k2!]

my brother in christ.. its arcanist... and you seem not know how to build for full carry yourself... You could carry it easily. it's on you tbh.
you build titanic mag, cdr, expansion, stamina mastery, leech, cheat death on haze... vs nearly full spirit nuke team.. where is frenzy, where is spell breaker, where is spirit resil? at least got silencer- good. cheat death- meh. expansion does nothing pretty much, better get warpstone if u wanna not let people jump out of your ult and or capacitor. if you want spirit for longer ults and more bullets- better get surge of power on knife, and stuff like curse, focus lense, slowing hex, boundless. but usually you will have 1, 2, or 3 maxmum spirit items.. want more lifesteal?- better get vamp burst, leech is cool and all, but ultra late if you have slots for it, but better get more fire-rate. toxic can be nice- but no1 of them builds hp and has bare minimum of green investment.. get penetration (crippling headshot or bullet resist shreder if u can land knifes well) or more fire-rate.
you could just become unkillable for them and hunt them down 1 by 1 or ult entire teams solo winning the game. Can ask team to be the bait for lash ult, or just let them get ulted by lash, clean up yourself right after... but....
and your ritualist game- glass cannon is not great on haze.. like at all.. and SB bth.. but when you get this many kills- maybe worth if you giga carry. Glass cannon makes your 20 damage bullets do 30.. wow. cool 6.4k nice. and yet again cheat death...

Your comment is pointless because I didn't even have the chance to play the game.

You are saying that I need defensive items, why?

I have 5 deaths and 3 of those are in my spawn when we had already lost 5 times.

You need the context of the game and the context was that my team fed since the beginning of the game non stop. This Celeste had 12k net when I had 6k and I was doing well.

My rank is low cause I have few games on this account and I just started playing a few weeks ago.

 

[Ravaanos.Sarivur]

Your comment is pointless because I didn't even have the chance to play the game.

You are saying that I need defensive items, why?

I have 5 deaths and 3 of those are in my spawn when we had already lost 5 times.

You need the context of the game and the context was that my team fed since the beginning of the game non stop. This Celeste had 12k net when I had 6k and I was doing well.

My rank is low cause I have few games on this account and I just started playing a few weeks ago.

"You are saying that I need defensive items, why?"
coz you don't die those 5 times then. Celest can't kill you with 67-87% spirit resist (might even go into 90% territory with fury trance.). no1 on their team can aside from venator.
same in ritualist game- nearly all of them are gun and melee... 1 plated armor would give so much value its insane or metal skin (even tho it won't save vs mirage marks, but still, he would have rought time stacking them all up), can get juggernaut if can't parry billy well. or rebuttal if no souls
Will add- also can add inhibitor to reduce enemy damage and healing, with all the resists vs main threats you just won't die they will barely scratch you...