Rank stuck on initiate 2 (VALVE FIX THIS PLEASE)

[Southpa]

as several people have posted already, there is a weird bug in ranking where some players get stuck on initiate 2 specifically. I'm one of those players and I'm making another post so valve can pay attention to this annoying ass bug. I have 150+ hours in the game and a 50% win rate. The thing is, my rank does not move- it does not go up or even DOWN. My friends with less than half my play time and less skill are ranking up and down, while I'm stuck in initiate 2, it's genuinely insufferable to check my rank after every match- win or lose- mvp or not, and absolutely NOTHING changes. It's not fair and it makes the game less fun. And before you reply that ranks aren't everything and that it doesnt even matter or it isnt accurate- we know, that's not the point, it's a part of the game that makes it more competitive and enjoyable, not to mention it affects ur mmr and WHAT LOBBIES U R PLACED IN. VALVE PLEASE FIX THIS. i have a feeling it has to do with the fact my friends played the game a little earlier than me before the mmr update, which either way is bs and shouldnt be the case. either way, many people have complained about this with valve not giving a shit, please look into this.

Update: i will post on my feed updates on my rank and if the issue is fixed, initiate 2 hostages i will not give up on us

 

[Rheim]

if you have a 50% wr doesn't that mean u belong there?

 

[Southpa]

if you have a 50% wr doesn't that mean u belong there?

i would if my friends werent in the 40% and yet reaching ritualist and archanist, so no i dont belong there

 

[Southpa]

@Yoshi i beg you to look into this

 

[olekspa]

if you can't carry in Initiate and stomp all games I dunno man.

 

[nothingplease]

People have less than 50% WR and are in Ascendant. Seen tons of profiles with less than 50% in Oracle/Phantom.

 

[Snowyy]

hey i have the same bug, i STOMP every single game... stuck in initiate 2 as well... so yes can confirm, it is a bug... stop ganging up on him and telling him he's bad or whatever... i made another steam account just to test, this one reached fucking ascendant 4... so yea... im just playing on that till thats fixed lol

 

[Snowyy]

@Yoshi this guy's right, there's a bug with initiate 2, some people get stuck there for some reason, would appreciate a fix in the future (no stress)

seen a few other threads about it and made one myself, its weird but yea, its a real bug

 

[RemOrRiot]

I'd trade with you. Ritualist 4 lose every game or get hard carried, don't have fun in either case. Maybe you deserved the rank at the start but at some point ranks seem to get locked, I wonder if its play time based hence why new accounts don't get the issue.

 

[Southpa]

I'd trade with you. Ritualist 4 lose every game or get hard carried, don't have fun in either case. Maybe you deserved the rank at the start but at some point ranks seem to get locked, I wonder if its play time based hence why new accounts don't get the issue.

i'd gladly trade ngl, trust me you dont want this, friends constantly going "skill issue," being stuck in the same lobbies while everyone advances around you, i joined a couple weeks ago, maybe a month or so, im up to 150 hours and still not budging,

 

[Donavancmw]

i'd gladly trade ngl, trust me you dont want this, friends constantly going "skill issue," being stuck in the same lobbies while everyone advances around you, i joined a couple weeks ago, maybe a month or so, im up to 150 hours and still not budging,

Aye don't worry about it bro, the acct I started with this last month has 600 games players and I was initate for a good portion of it, that acct is now Alc/Arc, but I will say that my New account that i made to performance max is currently sitting at Emissary 3 with 16 games played 12 won, so LOWK, JUST LOWK. I think it might just be possible if your rank hits as low as initiate 2 then, it's for a reason, and then game intends for you to learn.
I'm saying this as a guy who spent over 300 games trying to break out of Seeker and once I made a new acct I instantly shot up through the ranks.

So yeah, it's gonna be a lot harder trying to fix your rank now, but i promise your rank isn't budging because you aren't winning/the reason for winning, not just because of some tech error that may exist.

But i did break out of initate 2, so it can be done. it's not broken.

 

[Scrub]

people out here admitting they use alternate accounts is just wild bro, you know they can see this stuff right

 

[Donavancmw]

people out here admitting they use alternate accounts is just wild bro, you know they can see this stuff right

Either this comment is Satire, or you are not a moba player. Yoshi has confirmed he doesn't mind alts as long as they aren't being used for any exploitive purposes.

As someone who plays sometimes 10-50 hours STRAIGHT, it's very VERY important that I have an account that i can train my autopilot//Practice and then an Account that I simply only try my best.

It's like Being on a sports team, and one account is practice, and the other account is Game time.

EDIT: And you must know, this is simply because Ranked is default. There isn't a choice, You can't play FOR FUN w/o potentially botching your rank, so yes.

 

[Snowyy]

Aye don't worry about it bro, the acct I started with this last month has 600 games players and I was initate for a good portion of it, that acct is now Alc/Arc, but I will say that my New account that i made to performance max is currently sitting at Emissary 3 with 16 games played 12 won, so LOWK, JUST LOWK. I think it might just be possible if your rank hits as low as initiate 2 then, it's for a reason, and then game intends for you to learn.
I'm saying this as a guy who spent over 300 games trying to break out of Seeker and once I made a new acct I instantly shot up through the ranks.

So yeah, it's gonna be a lot harder trying to fix your rank now, but i promise your rank isn't budging because you aren't winning/the reason for winning, not just because of some tech error that may exist.

But i did break out of initate 2, so it can be done. it's not broken.

its a bug related to initiate 1 no longer existing i believe, if youve lost a majority of your matches before getting your rank (my main account did, later found out thats because people make smurfs to farm obscure rank players for their main account or their friend's account to look better) you get put in "initiate 2" but the logic behind it is its trying to put you lower so you get glitched, i can see my rank going "up" in a way, but only through hero skill rating, as in, my celeste will go down to "low compared to skill rating" after a set amount of matches where im not playing her from "high compared to skill rating", so its going up, but graphically and mechanically, its not budging, matchmaking still puts you with initiate players only.

its 100% a bug, trust me... i just stomp every game on my main account (my alt is ascendant 5 now, was 4 yesterday, about 100ish games)

 

[Southpa]

Aye don't worry about it bro, the acct I started with this last month has 600 games players and I was initate for a good portion of it, that acct is now Alc/Arc, but I will say that my New account that i made to performance max is currently sitting at Emissary 3 with 16 games played 12 won, so LOWK, JUST LOWK. I think it might just be possible if your rank hits as low as initiate 2 then, it's for a reason, and then game intends for you to learn.
I'm saying this as a guy who spent over 300 games trying to break out of Seeker and once I made a new acct I instantly shot up through the ranks.

So yeah, it's gonna be a lot harder trying to fix your rank now, but i promise your rank isn't budging because you aren't winning/the reason for winning, not just because of some tech error that may exist.

But i did break out of initate 2, so it can be done. it's not broken.

i appreciate you trying to give me hope, but i promise you this is an error on their end that several users are dealing with no matter the win rate, how many games, and playtime. look through the forum and you'll see for yourself. im telling you my friends with less than a quarter of my play time and who i carry every game are moving up and down the ranks as the matches go on, we don't move. we have been told this whole "you just need to play more matches" a million times- that is not the solution and has not been the solution, we do not move up or down, it is a KNOWN error on their end that many people have been complaining about for a while

 

[Donavancmw]

its a bug related to initiate 1 no longer existing i believe, if youve lost a majority of your matches before getting your rank (my main account did, later found out thats because people make smurfs to farm obscure rank players for their main account or their friend's account to look better) you get put in "initiate 2" but the logic behind it is its trying to put you lower so you get glitched, i can see my rank going "up" in a way, but only through hero skill rating, as in, my celeste will go down to "low compared to skill rating" after a set amount of matches where im not playing her from "high compared to skill rating", so its going up, but graphically and mechanically, its not budging, matchmaking still puts you with initiate players only.

its 100% a bug, trust me... i just stomp every game on my main account (my alt is ascendant 5 now, was 4 yesterday, about 100ish games)

Hmm... If this does so happen to be the case, then it does stand absolutely true what I feel about the system. It detects you as the "initiate 2" bugged player to be the absolute best in the lobby and you should win and only win regardless of your teammates because of how low the rank is

And i did notice that I did not start to see a difference from Initiate 2 -> Until i hit a 7 game streak. Where it went to I3 and then once i Hit 12 games the rank started to move more rapidly ultimately placing me in seeker 1 at the end of the 12 Game win streak. I went on to lose and demote into Initiate VI. But as flawed as I see the system "is" I think it makes absolute sense when you really think about the skill chart in this game. Which is honestly super sad if you got caught in it, but that only means that the games you get put into will be with some of the worst of the worst and you will always be able to win through individual means alone.

I'm even as compelled enough in my argument to say this cycle of matchmaking will persist until the middle to end of Arcanist. THE ONLY FLAW, is all of the other players trapped in this cycle, so the game has trouble determining who is truly unskilled and who is just stuck in the cycle. SO MUCH SO, I'm hoppin off my Emissary 2 account and getting on my Seeker VI acct to prove this theory. See you in Ritualist! or never to be seen again xd find out at SorrowLockttv xd nah but Fr.

Lemme do some more research. I'm 600 games deep barely breaking 50% wr mostly used for experimenting different characters/learning the game, but allow me to channel into my inner ArchAngel and break this viscous curse you all call "matchmaking"

 

[Donavancmw]

WILL UPDATE IN 12 HOURS!

 

[Snowyy]

people out here admitting they use alternate accounts is just wild bro, you know they can see this stuff right

yes, i do, i do not think its worth a ban if it was done because of a bug or as a test for a possible bug tho.

 

[Snowyy]

WILL UPDATE IN 12 HOURS!

it has to be initial placements, if you fall down to it now, it wont matter

edit : just to add on to this, basically, when you start playing a game, you're usually bad, some people go do bot matches for a bit to learn... i sure didnt... but either way, dont think it would matter with all the movement shit... anyways... yea, people who, like me, take a bit to get used to new games, will usually tend to lose way more or get lucky and get carried, this seems to be a new bug from after initiate 1 was no longer a thing FROM WHAT I CAN TELL, this is NOT facts, this is my hypothesis after doing it twice, once on an alt with a 6 stack and once on my main who just got paired with smurfs the whole time btw... thats another issue tho and im sure theres plenty of posts about it already out there. both lost about 8 times out of 10 (fyi, the 6 stack was throwing along with me, we were all in on it, the wins are 2 games where everyone on the enemy team disconnected mid game... weird that it happened twice but we did not want to sit there watching minions win for them so we just took those wins, it was entirely a test, nothing more)

maybe my main only lost 7 or maybe 6 idk, point being, it got the "lowest" rank possible (likely lower than that but either way its just bugged rn) and is now stuck there, im over 50% win rate now and i can confirm... low ranks are just filled with smurf accounts (tracklock app tells me that much, ik theres slight error range but ye) i really dont see how they expect solo players to deal with that... i can do it now, easily, the people abusing it arent good at the game anyways, but i also dont belong here so like... yea... thats another thing... id like to get better at the game but im just entirely bugged in initiate 2 and cant learn how higher ranks play as a team... and i dont mean eternus players... those are just the 1%, i mean higher ranks than initiate.

 

[Donavancmw]

yes, i do, i do not think its worth a ban if it was done because of a bug or as a test for a possible bug tho.

and if Yoshi were to come forth and specifically say Alternate accounts were no longer allowed in deadlock. I would retire the other one and call it a day. But People do fail to realize this game is early access with the intention to only improve on it's Success.