[META] Mods - start cleaning up this forum. seriously.

[bloodfrost27]

I doubt very much that the devs read anything posted here anymore. I suspect they must have a separate secret forum for their cool kids only playtest club. Once I learned of its existence I vowed not to make one single additional bug report. Because either we are playtesters or we aren't, and Valve answered that question for me.

They add suggestions and fix bug fixes brought forth on these forums all the time. I think there was a time where they were more focused on that secret playtest but recently i notice a lot more that their changes are based on things posted here.

 

[necogutz]

I doubt very much that the devs read anything posted here anymore. I suspect they must have a separate secret forum for their cool kids only playtest club. Once I learned of its existence I vowed not to make one single additional bug report. Because either we are playtesters or we aren't, and Valve answered that question for me.

 

[Tides]

Valve has developers reading through and forwarding appropriately interesting content to other relevant developers when they see it. They do this through multiple social media platforms, forums included.

If your content is good, it will be forwarded. The game is absolutely full of ideas and ability concepts that were brought forward by the community.

 

[bloodfrost27]

It's filling up once again with irrelevant posts

 

[postto]

omg, fucking preach, i used to browse this place daily and now i do it like once every week because of how fucking dogshit this forum has become, ever since the new heroes dropped this place has been a shit show of people posting unrelated redesigns for existing heroes or just overall complaining about patches and that problem got worst when that streamer managed to convince a valve animator to change Lash's parry animation with like 4-5 parry animation ideas dropping daily

 

[♥ Rλyne Rat ♥]

I used AI once to try to communicate what sort of direction I was heading out, not as a substitute on "Yeah, I want exactly this". And I had people ass blasting me for it. Literal animals.

To be honest, if they feel threatened about AI artwork, that means what they make is crap lol

Most of the artists who are skilled take constructive feedback and don't feel threatened by it. I mean, that is about aspiring, no?

thoroughly convinced you're here to just ragebait most of the time.

AI is an insult not to mention an environmental detriment. disliking something on the premise of it stealing other artists' work, destroying the environment and all around looking like dogshit doesn't mean someone is insecure about their art. it means they don't like AI.

the idea that you even think "skill" is anything to do with someone using their creativity to create their own heroes is proof in and of itself you care very little for people's creations and moreso about... i don't even know, trying to prove you're better some how? because you can make their ideas using AI garbage?

it's ironic you're all complaining about people using this section of the forums for trying to get feedback about existing hero ideas, when the people like you giving feedback for new hero ideas are assholes.

 

[necogutz]

thoroughly convinced you're here to just ragebait most of the time.

AI is an insult not to mention an environmental detriment. disliking something on the premise of it stealing other artists' work, destroying the environment and all around looking like dogshit doesn't mean someone is insecure about their art. it means they don't like AI.

the idea that you even think "skill" is anything to do with someone using their creativity to create their own heroes is proof in and of itself you care very little for people's creations and moreso about... i don't even know, trying to prove you're better some how? because you can make their ideas using AI garbage?

it's ironic you're all complaining about people using this section of the forums for trying to get feedback about existing hero ideas, when the people like you giving feedback for new hero ideas are assholes.

I want to believe it's a ragebait account for my own personal mental confort because there's no way people will really go their way to speak like that about others. In the end AI dudebros are always the same, try to ignore these for the best.

Also

Most of the artists who are skilled take constructive feedback and don't feel threatened by it. I mean, that is about aspiring, no?

No, this just proves you haven't ever lifted a pencil.

To be honest, if they feel threatened about AI artwork, that means what they make is crap lol

What can you do? AI crap? Ragebaiting? Flooding the forum with useless stuff trying to fight people in a poor attempt of saying "Why are you making this a fight?*"? you're know for being annoying and rude, get a hobby.

*quoted from another post.

 

[♥ Rλyne Rat ♥]

I want to believe it's a ragebait account for my own personal mental confort because there's no way people will really go their way to speak like that about others. In the end AI dudebros are always the same, try to ignore these for the best.

Also

No, this just proves you haven't ever lifted a pencil.

What can you do? AI crap? Ragebaiting? Flooding the forum with useless stuff trying to fight people in a poor attempt of saying "Why are you making this a fight?*"? you're know for being annoying and rude, get a hobby.

*quoted from another post.

oh i love you

 

[volkgang]

thoroughly convinced you're here to just ragebait most of the time.

AI is an insult not to mention an environmental detriment. disliking something on the premise of it stealing other artists' work, destroying the environment and all around looking like dogshit doesn't mean someone is insecure about their art. it means they don't like AI.

the idea that you even think "skill" is anything to do with someone using their creativity to create their own heroes is proof in and of itself you care very little for people's creations and moreso about... i don't even know, trying to prove you're better some how? because you can make their ideas using AI garbage?

it's ironic you're all complaining about people using this section of the forums for trying to get feedback about existing hero ideas, when the people like you giving feedback for new hero ideas are assholes.

I don't like the AI art that I see here but I agree on what the guy said that it might be too much to go scorched earth on it. So while I may disagree with its use (it's really sad seeing the ads and art around my city go from real art to now almost all AI. Advertisements are crappy AI animated, banners are AI, and it all looks like crap. A number of people lost their jobs to *that*).

I agree with your own points that you brought up but expect them to mention how prompting is its own skill and getting good AI art is like getting a cat to follow instructions. The wheel of tech and how it will replace jobs. It is probably best to argue about AI art in a different thread and not this one as it's not exactly related on how the forum is a mess.

 

[♥ Rλyne Rat ♥]

I don't like the AI art that I see here but I agree on what the guy said that it might be too much to go scorched earth on it. So while I may disagree with its use (it's really sad seeing the ads and art around my city go from real art to now almost all AI. Advertisements are crappy AI animated, banners are AI, and it all looks like crap. A number of people lost their jobs to *that*).

I agree with your own points that you brought up but expect them to mention how prompting is its own skill and getting good AI art is like getting a cat to follow instructions. The wheel of tech and how it will replace jobs. It is probably best to argue about AI art in a different thread and not this one as it's not exactly related on how the forum is a mess.

no. typing bullshit into an AI does not require skill in any sense of the word.

i think this is a good point to bring up here since one of the people actively debating about the forum being a "mess" actively makes it a mess by using AI "art" garbage to plague people's posts.

 

[volkgang]

no. typing bullshit into an AI does not require skill in any sense of the word.

i think this is a good point to bring up here since one of the people actively debating about the forum being a "mess" actively makes it a mess by using AI "art" garbage to plague people's posts.

I said *expect them* to make the arguement. I get your point.

What I'm saying is that while it is a worthwhile discussion, it's on the lesser problems of the site.

We need a frontend overhaul.

We need clearly signposted sections that clearly explain what they do. Have a public section for feedback for current heroes.

We need a larger mod team to handle the work and their tools to handle reports made better.

Then let us decide then if AI will be allowed or not. I like to note the Discord bans AI artwork so there's already precedent for it. However, it could led to more workload for the mod team which if not expanded, slows them down.