[META] Mods - start cleaning up this forum. seriously.

[photon]

This thread will probably will be deleted (would probably show that mods still enter this forum) but I think I can speak to many people who are passionate about just creating community heroes, some of which go as far as to create or even commission art just to get their idea out there, only for it to be lost on page 3 with no views after a few hours due to spam and/or irrelevant shit (e.g, feedback being posted here for gameplay or art for existing heroes) with 0 moderation. Seriously mods, start moderating this forum.

You're driving creative people out of here, who try to help out the devs implicitly by giving them ideas for new abilities or heroes.

 

[photon]

Take a good look and count all the feedback that's misplaced in this forum. There literally 4 community heroes in this page compared to a dozen irrelevant shit that should be in the appropriate forum

 

[gibnewitems]

100% agreed. Off-topic has been a plague on this forum for ages.

Sadly, the only person with moderator tools that visits regularly is a valve developer. All of the other mods are community volunteers, and I haven't seen most of them online in ages. I really don't see this changing anytime soon, and that's a real bummer.

 

[ToastedPotato]

There also just isn't a forum for new ideas for existing heroes. Leaving private feedback on existing heroes is fine, but it is better for the community to get their heads together and discuss things. As an example, take my recent post about Silver. It involves brand new mechanics, and I wanted community feedback on it, so – as far as I understand the forums – the only option was for me to post it here. What we really need is to split up the Community Hero Ideas forum into ideas for brand new hero concepts and ideas for existing heroes.

Forgive me if an appropriate forum already exists for this. I couldn't find it, so in that case I guess the correct solution would be to make that forum more obvious for silly people like me.

 

[SilverLover67]

There also just isn't a forum for new ideas for existing heroes. Leaving private feedback on existing heroes is fine, but it is better for the community to get their heads together and discuss things. As an example, take my recent post about Silver. It involves brand new mechanics, and I wanted community feedback on it, so – as far as I understand the forums – the only option was for me to post it here. What we really need is to split up the Community Hero Ideas forum into ideas for brand new hero concepts and ideas for existing heroes.

Forgive me if an appropriate forum already exists for this. I couldn't find it, so in that case I guess the correct solution would be to make that forum more obvious for silly people like me.

same

 

[necogutz]

There also just isn't a forum for new ideas for existing heroes. Leaving private feedback on existing heroes is fine, but it is better for the community to get their heads together and discuss things. As an example, take my recent post about Silver. It involves brand new mechanics, and I wanted community feedback on it, so – as far as I understand the forums – the only option was for me to post it here. What we really need is to split up the Community Hero Ideas forum into ideas for brand new hero concepts and ideas for existing heroes.

Forgive me if an appropriate forum already exists for this. I couldn't find it, so in that case I guess the correct solution would be to make that forum more obvious for silly people like me.

This person is right, there isn't a dedicated forum for the heroes we already have, this is the only "creative" forum existing right now alongside the items community ideas.

(...) compared to a dozen irrelevant shit (...)

Also totally unnecessary remark, don't be so bitter. Also not a single "please" in your statement, but you do you.

 

[ehomegiga]

Totally agree - there has to be a separate forum for ideas for existing heroes, it actually feels very harsh to spend a lot of time working on the concept and getting zero feedback

 

[bloodfrost27]

Ever since the recent parry updates the influx of new members has been substantial but the forum is so poorly signposted and setup that everything ends up in the wrong place.

In a perfect world, they'd rename this and the item forum to more effectively show that this is specifically for new community designs and not existing stuff. Then they'd make public forums for ideas for existing heroes and items, and any posts on there get crossposted to the private version of the forum so we can both have community feedback and secret dev feedback, or maybe the devs use dms to communicate with people instead.

This has been an issue for the longest time (it hasnt worked effectively since it was closed playtest) and I have no idea why they have kept the forum the way it is. I bet you could change it in like 2 minutes and then youd get better more organised feedback as a dev. Just baffling.

 

[bloodfrost27]

1 relevant post here, signposting is clearly abysmally dogshit. These are all smart people with good ideas, one cant pretend its their fault for posting here, its a navigational issue that needs to be fixed

 

[photon]

There are dedicated forums for hero feedbacks and all of these feedbacks belong there. Valve decided its best to leave feedback to existing heroes to private forums so the feedback would remain genuine and independent and that ultimately people won't influence each other when giving feedback per their statements. So if you want them to actually read your feedback put them in the right places instead of spamming other forums with other purposes such as this one. Simple as that.

 

[photon]

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1 relevant post here, signposting is clearly abysmally dogshit. These are all smart people with good ideas, you cant pretend its their fault for posting here, its a navigational issue

Never blamed any of these feedback givers, only the staff which doesn't seem to care. I'm sure many of them are very good and deserve dev attention however I don't know how likely they are to be red when placed in the improper forum

 

[bloodfrost27]

Never blamed any of these feedback givers, only the staff which doesn't seem to care. I'm sure many of them are very good and deserve dev attention however I don't know how likely they are to be red when placed in the improper forum

Yea i wasnt trying to blame you, it's English's fault for not having a good alternative to an abstract "you" compared to a specific "you". When i said that i meant anyone

 

[Schmiloff]

Not to mention feedback that isn't relevant to the posts created. If someone is making a suggestion, no need to belittle if if you don't like it.

 

[gibnewitems]

Yea i wasnt trying to blame you, it's English's fault for not having a good alternative to an abstract "you" compared to a specific "you". When i said that i meant anyone

We do, it's called y'all.

 

[bloodfrost27]

We do, it's called y'all.

IMO y'all would be indicating the people in this chat rather than devs also

 

[AlmightyChaos]

So that's why some of my creations have gone largely unnoticed recently...

Very unfortunate.

 

[ReportingBugs]

There also just isn't a forum for new ideas for existing heroes. Leaving private feedback on existing heroes is fine, but it is better for the community to get their heads together and discuss things. As an example, take my recent post about Silver. It involves brand new mechanics, and I wanted community feedback on it, so – as far as I understand the forums – the only option was for me to post it here. What we really need is to split up the Community Hero Ideas forum into ideas for brand new hero concepts and ideas for existing heroes.

Forgive me if an appropriate forum already exists for this. I couldn't find it, so in that case I guess the correct solution would be to make that forum more obvious for silly people like me.

You are not supposed to do that. They exist, and it's under the private forums on the main page, which you can post, which only Valve and you see but no one else. Community bias is only allowed for completely brand new characters or items, not on reworks or balancing or suggestions to enhance.

Community bias hurts the development of Deadlock. You should be speaking privately about it to people, not openly on this forum.

 

[flameblast12]

You can DM the moderators though. I took told them and they took down those "hate material" heroes weeks ago.

 

[gibnewitems]

You can DM the moderators though. I took told them and they took down those "hate material" heroes weeks ago.

Only after multiple people bitched to them on discord for days. The current mods have proven countless times to not give a shit about the forums, therefore their mod status should be removed and given to someone else who actually cares about this place enough to browse it regularly.

 

[gibnewitems]

You are not supposed to do that. They exist, and it's under the private forums on the main page, which you can post, which only Valve and you see but no one else. Community bias is only allowed for completely brand new characters or items, not on reworks or balancing or suggestions to enhance.

Community bias hurts the development of Deadlock. You should be speaking privately about it to people, not openly on this forum.

You know what, fuck it. I'll bite.

That rule was made in a completely different era of Deadlock.

Nobody gives a shit anymore, including the developers. This game is being streamed to thousands now. There's a whole subreddit for this game. Millions of people have been exposed to Deadlock. Ecelebs are blatantly using their audience to sway the public perception about how strong heroes and items are in order to get things they don't like nerfed. All the while, this place remains incredibly dead.