Bad Matchmaking Thread

[luke.iswim]

The MM needs some kind of fix or ranks need to be disincentivized from play until launch. Not only are so many lopsided games insanely unfun to play, it also encourages people to onetrick heroes and play extremely selfishly, severely harming the feel of the game.

 

[luke.iswim]

https://statlocker.gg/profile/1766187271/matches, https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561199726452999, another smurf account found, @Yoshi, let's face it, you don't actually do anything about smurf accounts, you let them roam free. 42182539 you deserve to not be a part of the development team. Let someone else who actually has integrity take over because clearly, you favor greed and corruption over actual enforcement of rules.
Also, this account is admitted to smurfing with an alt: https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561199066808298, https://statlocker.gg/profile/1106542570/matches. You actually don't do shit, @Yoshi, about the smurfs. And people wonder why the player count is going down even more.

I hate to tell you this but Yoshi is a community alias, they don't do anything with development and are just an anonymous feedback punching bag.

 

[luke.iswim]

42188814

Game is going really well for our team, then someone's crit damage is out of control and they can see our every move. To confirm, I go inside a veil and just sit there. Paige and their whole team immediately walk right in there, then claim I was seen on the map. Can you please ban obvious cheaters? We didn't deserve this loss.

 

[amoretto]

42095345, 42112883

first and last matches of this play session. the four in between these matches were good.


42095345, the emmissarry billy player, TheSightz (if you are reading this, fuck you,) spent at least 5 minutes on mic beneath our walker literally screaming, after pausing the match to take a bong rip and hard feeding lane. meanwhile he was screaming, i took the guardian and most of the walker hp, he goes and kills himself under walker to finish taking it, then continues his tyrade on mic. I DID ALL THE WORK, GROW SOME RESPECT FOR YOUR TEAMMATES. he throws by just going afk in jungle for the rest of the game.
I am seeker 3, (i ranked up to 4 but back down due to the second match) and he is emmissary 3. He has the mental fortitude of a kindergartener, how is he in my match and how am i still being placed with brand new players? (no hate to newbies)

second match, 3 of my teammates cannot secure A SINGLE KILL. the other team wipes us, ivy solo pushes into lash slams until she ragequits, game is a total noncompete, and there is no option to abandon until like 20 minutes in. actual agony.
Lash is ritualist 5, ivy is obscurus. there is evidently a skill gap here, and i could have told you that 2 minutes into lane, and i wasn't even IN THE LANE.

 

[jasonroy16]

42196077 - Incredibly unbalanced kills to souls.

 

[Twinih]

Incredibly unbalanced games
Match IDs:
42210839
42208336
42201698

 

[a10m]

Match Id: 42191948

If you look at the damage, clearly you can see something is off with one person and clearly you can see that its a matchmaking issue. Also, one person abandoned game on the sapphire flames team, half way through the game.

 

[a10m]

If I solo queue, I expect to be matched with other solo queuers so the game is balanced and fair for everyone.

In this match, the enemy team, Sapphire Flames, had 3–4 people queued together. Even just a duo with communication can carry a game, so having 3–4 players together is unfair. None of my teammates were in a group—we were all solo queuers facing a coordinated stack.

Please fix your matchmaking.

Match ID: 42202434

 

[chiubacca101]

I have never played a game in which the matchmaking's skill matching had been so terrible. Even COD has better matchmaking than this. Unlike COD, I can't carry a whole team by myself when it doesn't seem like they don't possess two brain cells that can click together to follow simple strategies. No amount of shotcalling has saved any of my games - lord knows I have tried. Elo hell is real in this game

At least give me an option to reset my rank so I can at least place in a rank that has smarter, more competent players

Match IDs:
42221895
42015928
42113452
41995416
42211898

If someone is willing to do a gameplay review and help me at least crawl a little more out of this hell, please let me know

 

[VinylOfVarden]

Somehow we have a 4x increase in playercount since the new heroes dropped and the matchmaking has gotten WORSE? I genuinely can't believe it, shit like this is just a waste of my fucking time

Match ID 42231651

 

[crannberries]

MatchID 42234804

Victor seemed brand new to the game, this was Infernus's first game probably smurfing as he was stealing every soul and playing well. Mirage was supposedly the highest rank in our game but hasn't played in forever. Viscous seemed significantly better. Viscous and Paradox are Phantom and hard carried. I'm Archon and have won 2 of my 11 Billy games.

 

[quasigod]

42241356

 

[PenderrinH]

42246648

playing on real off hours so not too surprising but still

 

[smonk]

Eternus 6 in a trio stack with phantoms on the other team while I'm triod with an oracle and a phantom (I was archon 1 before this game). We lose because our team has the lower ranked team but I lose an entire rank over this game. If I play on the other team however I wont climb from this game. Please either make it clear how mmr differences between teams impact gain/loss. I should not be losing ranks for going against a team we had 0 chance beating in the first place.

For context the screenshots after the first were all games i won in a row without gaining a single rank.

 

[TheBearded]

Another great one!
42033976

Wraith went 0-8-0 and blamed me for "not knowing what to do in the game"
Whatever brand of delusion he's buying I want some too. Me and Mina destroyed Calico and Drifter in lane, and somehow they are still fed when the game is over. There is no way Valve can get good statistics out of this or any form of decent player relations. Guessing the other team was a 6-stack vs randoms?

View attachment 59644

Some interesting context when checking lane stats on this game:
Both lanes I had no control over lost with a huge margin.





If this doesn't tell you that there's something wrong with how these players were teamed up against eachother, then I don't know what would.

 

[back_biter+deadlock]

Match ID 42175737

The enemy Calico was wrecking us the entire match and they turned out to be in Eternus. Excuse my language here, but why the fuck is an Eternus player wrecking the lobbies in Emissary-Ritualist?? This is so beyond unfair and frustrating because there's nothing one can do against that, the skill level discrepancy is just too high. I'm hoping these reports are genuinely being looked into, because this just is beyond frustrating going on a losing spree because your team didn't get the Eternus player on their team.

I don't think they look into the reports. It's just there so you feel good about reporting people after game.

 

[TheBearded]

I have never played a game in which the matchmaking's skill matching had been so terrible. Even COD has better matchmaking than this. Unlike COD, I can't carry a whole team by myself when it doesn't seem like they don't possess two brain cells that can click together to follow simple strategies. No amount of shotcalling has saved any of my games - lord knows I have tried. Elo hell is real in this game

At least give me an option to reset my rank so I can at least place in a rank that has smarter, more competent players

Match IDs:
42221895
42015928
42113452
41995416
42211898

If someone is willing to do a gameplay review and help me at least crawl a little more out of this hell, please let me know

I checked these games on statlocker and you had:
- a 69% advantage in lane first game Y (enemy advantage Y: 11%, B: 19%)
- a 24% advantage second game B (enemy advantage G: 2%, team 24% Y)
- a 7% advantage third game B (enemy advantage Y: 16%, team B: 7%)
- a 8% advantage fourth game B (enemy advantage Y: 46%, G: 26%)
- a 27% advantage fifth game G (enemy advantage Y: 6%, B 12%)

Statlocker wouldn't let me check the live map on all games, but from what I can tell it's a matter of as soon as a fight starts somewhere the entire team comes running and over-engages, leading to brawls where you lose objectives without kills, meaning they have reduced souls gained in lane too. They're basically denying themselves the resources to win the game.

A pretty good example where you too participate in this is in the game 41995416 where you lose paradox and are down one player but still fight in the open when you lost objective already and mid is being pushed.

I feel like players overall, especially new ones, chase kills way way way too much. They think they're playing a regular hero shooter when it should be thought of as a economy simulator and fast scrims. This is something I see in my own games too. A fight starts to defend a walker, then more players join in and once the enemy disengages my team chases, gets turned on and lose the fight, leading to death times where they can't farm AND losing the walker anyway.

The biggest issue with matchmaking isn't players mechanical skills, it's the insane difference in macro knowledge.

 

[sifkamirareal]

Pretty much all my matches are horribly mismatched. I go against way better players (always higher rank) and usually get destroyed and it's reached a point where this game is unstreamable for me. I just sit there being miserable getting pathetic numbers and it's not a good look for your game if people see that. Why does your matchmaker think im the best player in EU?

I mean check this out 42253484. Im Seeker 4 so why am I in an Arcanist lobby?

Im not even convinced I should be Seeker 4 because even in Seeker 4 matches this happens:


If you watch the match you might think like "Man Sif, you play like you have an IQ of 60" well yes I do because I do have an IQ of 60. So why am I Seeker 4?

 

[gunslinger19]

Sigh.

Match 42265854. Almost 100k soul difference between teams. At least 5k difference between me and anyone else on my team, and I'm still lower than the lowest on the other team. No one defending or pushing except for me.

Can you just return my rank to the one before rank decay? This is ridiculous.

 

[gunslinger19]

Match 42268180

Guy on our team literally says it's his first Sinclair game. What happened to character based MMR? Don't say it if it isn't true, Valve.