abnormality
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i was placed in team 18 tiers lower then my rank (or 2 ranks lower), versus cheater vindicta
i was placed in team 18 tiers lower then my rank (or 2 ranks lower), versus cheater vindicta
Bad Matchmaking Thread
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luke.iswim
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No one wants to babysit idiots who can't push guardians, add tutorials or improve mm, you have no other choices.
No one wants to babysit idiots who can't push guardians, add tutorials or improve mm, you have no other choices.
luke.iswim
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Took a look at this one in statlocker, and, what the hell??? This isn't even just an outlier, this was completely unfair from a data standpoint. This is indefensible! If the majority of the playerbase is moving toward Arcanist, why am I getting so many games against Archon players as a Ritualist player? I am not some guy shooting for eternus thinking I'm owed wins, but isn't this just completely antithetical to how a skill based matchmaking system should work?
Edit: Oh, that Warden is ASCENDANT. What the fuck???
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soapsoap
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Duo'd for a 30 min q time with high elo friend, put into archon-emmisary games
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Solo'q at the time e2, put into emissary game
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Duo'd for a 30 min q time with high elo friend, put into archon-oracle game
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Solo'q for a 25 min q time, at the time eternus rank, put into oracle-archon games
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Duo'q for 15-20 min q time, at the time eternus rank w/ ascendant friend, put into oracle game
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Duo'q for 30 min q time, put into low archon lobby, both me and my friend were e6.
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Duo'd for a 30 min q time with high elo friend, put into archon-emmisary games
38715236
Solo'q at the time e2, put into emissary game
38669428
38666316
38667409
38665143
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Duo'd for a 30 min q time with high elo friend, put into archon-oracle game
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38627030
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38604391
38603549
38528273
Solo'q for a 25 min q time, at the time eternus rank, put into oracle-archon games
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Duo'q for 15-20 min q time, at the time eternus rank w/ ascendant friend, put into oracle game
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Duo'q for 30 min q time, put into low archon lobby, both me and my friend were e6.
oneofthemanydavids
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Figured I'll come back for the update. First game was fine. Then this game happened. Hideously one-sided and the other team definitely had smurfs or cheaters on it. The Yamato bought no items until she got told that you're supposed to.
Of late the matchmaking has been consistently horrendous while smurfs and cheaters are also absolutely rampant. I do want this game to succeed but these problems are going to kill it.
Figured I'll come back for the update. First game was fine. Then this game happened. Hideously one-sided and the other team definitely had smurfs or cheaters on it. The Yamato bought no items until she got told that you're supposed to.
Of late the matchmaking has been consistently horrendous while smurfs and cheaters are also absolutely rampant. I do want this game to succeed but these problems are going to kill it.
jporter917
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I agree with everyone's sentiment here about Smurfs and cheaters. It is crazy out of hand. They need to require a specific number of days before an account can be invited and download Deadlock. I suggest 3+ days old accounts in order to receive an invite and download the game. Match making should also take into account the number of hours a player has in the game (in-match hours only). Moreover, or optionally steam accounts should require a real phone number when setup and a phone number can only be attached to a single steam account. With exceptions for family, children and lost (requiring new) accounts. There would need to be a process for those.
Side note, from a general internet user and gamer. The day is coming where we will be required to present a real ID or some form of ID to play games on steam and/or use the net. All politics aside, it is an unfortunate truth to the progress we are seeing in the digital world lately.
Overall, this wouldn't just solve Smurfs and cheaters in Deadlock. It would solve it in nearly all online PVP/PVE games. Do I enjoy that idea? No. Do I want it to happen? No, more often than not. Will it happen in the future? Yes, at some point soon-next 5-8 years realistically. With AI advancements and everything else they will have too or the 'dead internet theory' will become the 'dead game theory' with just bots playing bots to sell accounts to real people who just play with other bots until the game dies.
*EDIT* With some sort of ID attached to (any type) of account it would allow companies to not only ban specific people from playing their game, unless they use someone else's ID. It would allow them to go after the network on people who create, support, and manage cheats.
Side note, from a general internet user and gamer. The day is coming where we will be required to present a real ID or some form of ID to play games on steam and/or use the net. All politics aside, it is an unfortunate truth to the progress we are seeing in the digital world lately.
Overall, this wouldn't just solve Smurfs and cheaters in Deadlock. It would solve it in nearly all online PVP/PVE games. Do I enjoy that idea? No. Do I want it to happen? No, more often than not. Will it happen in the future? Yes, at some point soon-next 5-8 years realistically. With AI advancements and everything else they will have too or the 'dead internet theory' will become the 'dead game theory' with just bots playing bots to sell accounts to real people who just play with other bots until the game dies.
*EDIT* With some sort of ID attached to (any type) of account it would allow companies to not only ban specific people from playing their game, unless they use someone else's ID. It would allow them to go after the network on people who create, support, and manage cheats.
back_biter+deadlock
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oneofthemanydavids
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THIS IS SO MUCH FUN
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OH WAIT NO IT ISN'T
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OH WAIT NO IT ISN'T
f1delity666
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they simple cant read or do a single correct call -.-
they simple cant read or do a single correct call -.-
MMG
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It's MM issue, not how anyone is good at the game. You shouldn't be put into a lobby that is unbalanced. Smurfs are also the issue. They skew the outcome as well. Every now and then there are blatant cheaters in game and they will generate 20k-30k more souls than anyone in the game.
f1delity666
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dynamo and me vs 6, no idea how its possible to be 20k at 30min as pocket -.-
dynamo and me vs 6, no idea how its possible to be 20k at 30min as pocket -.-
f1delity666
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Sure it is, but those lightyear differences are just not normal, even Dota2 and CS2 have that solved better somehow. Valve would be better off just taking the ranks from statlocker.gg and match accordingly - not perfect but way way closer.
Just check the attached screenshot, wont have been a nice game for the enemy team nor for me. And its more than enough players online right now - thanks to the patch.
And I bet if I check statlocker later there are some below ritualist, when as in May, it should be around archon/oracle. (will attach statlocker screen later, if I dont forget.
Same a couple of days ago, some eternus6 in enemy team - just not an MM issue itself - its just abysmal prioritizing and averaging. Those ranks should never face each other.
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mycup0fj03
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the cheater's profile: https://steamcommunity.com/id/viperrboss/
Blatant aimbot on Haze since minute 0. Can we just ban anyone who has any kind of ban on their account, whether it's a VAC or game ban?
I'm so sick of people ruining this game for me just because they derive enjoyment from making others suffer. I just want to play in a fair environment.
I haven’t seen a single cheater turn into a frog, and I’ve been playing for a little over a year now.
Valve, please fix.
the cheater's profile: https://steamcommunity.com/id/viperrboss/
Blatant aimbot on Haze since minute 0. Can we just ban anyone who has any kind of ban on their account, whether it's a VAC or game ban?
I'm so sick of people ruining this game for me just because they derive enjoyment from making others suffer. I just want to play in a fair environment.
I haven’t seen a single cheater turn into a frog, and I’ve been playing for a little over a year now.
Valve, please fix.
Rulostyle1313
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In summary, experienced players are using new accounts to test exploits on the new map. You can see how Pocker spent much of the match watching from an invisible roof above the map, providing information and clearing lanes. Not only are they using smurf accounts to take advantage of novice players, but they are also using actual cheats. I would like to see categorical and exemplary sanctions applied to this type of player. It is truly annoying and completely ruins the gaming experience.
In summary, experienced players are using new accounts to test exploits on the new map. You can see how Pocker spent much of the match watching from an invisible roof above the map, providing information and clearing lanes. Not only are they using smurf accounts to take advantage of novice players, but they are also using actual cheats. I would like to see categorical and exemplary sanctions applied to this type of player. It is truly annoying and completely ruins the gaming experience.
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