Bad Matchmaking Thread

[oldspicesuperman0]

44461618 Just felt like such a bad stomp even though the ranks were even. To much of a noob to explain through gameplay stuff.

 

[PaveMentman]

Yo dude that is actually insane.. You wanna duo some games today? ill try to help you snap this loss streak haha.

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If the person you replied to was indeed the player with )highlighted) name "General", they are not truthful.
Details to match:
https://statlocker.gg/match/44431086/summary
Their profile:
https://statlocker.gg/profile/94211441/matches

Quick glance at "Performance"-section shows no indication of ever having longer lose streak than six (6) matches in a row.
https://statlocker.gg/profile/94211441/performance -> WIn/Loss trend
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[PaveMentman]

We don't know what they're doing with initiate ranks but it's theorized new accounts start with a negative mmr to smooth out the new player experience. Plus there's the problem that all we see are the average ranks post game, so there could be bad matchmaking based on averaging mmr that doesnt have anything to do with ranks having "imperceptiple" skill levels but instead the problem is how the vastly different ranks are allowed to be put together. I know whenever I get new players on my team it's because someone queued with them in a party and the game finds a way to average the mmr that way.

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Even old(er) accounts seemingly are "de-ranked" almost into below "Obscurus"-ranks, if the (non-official) API website is to be believed.

An example of my "MMR":
https://deadlock-api.com/player?pd-picker-tab=patch&steam_id=25016464

Main issue currently indeed here both wins or losses are affecting my "ELO" insignificantly.

My Statlocker-page:
https://statlocker.gg/profile/25016464/matches

(( And my Statlocker "Performance Points" mainly being "in debt" is due to lack of last-hitting which the website currently is extremely biased towards as of posting this. ))
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[dark_zector]

Use this thread to share matchids for games that you think the matchmaker did a bad job at. If you can explain what you felt was a problem in it that would be helpful as well.

Do not post matchids for games that were within the past 24 hours from this post. Games older than that are fine and games going forward are fine.

Thanks for the help

the mm is the worst i ever see right now

 

[multiplemike]

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Even old(er) accounts seemingly are "de-ranked" almost into below "Obscurus"-ranks, if the (non-official) API website is to be believed.

An example of my "MMR":
https://deadlock-api.com/player?pd-picker-tab=patch&steam_id=25016464

Main issue currently indeed here both wins or losses are affecting my "ELO" insignificantly.

My Statlocker-page:
https://statlocker.gg/profile/25016464/matches

(( And my Statlocker "Performance Points" mainly being "in debt" is due to lack of last-hitting which the website currently is extremely biased towards as of posting this. ))
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Unfortunately rank does not necessarily mean MMR. League of legends uses fake ranks with hidden MMR. So we dont actually know anything and these third party websites are just estimations that could be wildly off.

 

[multiplemike]

Match ID 44466970. Smurf or cheater on doorman destroying the lobby. I believe he was cheating because he killed grey talon through fog gate at the end of the game with no vision

 

[Brochelle]

this fuking piece of shit drifter (IEatCrayons) is a fuking ashole.

had him in a match a few nights ago and he just fed.

tonight he feeds then DC's.

is there not a way to ban this human trash?

 

[LuxLuci]

Match ID 44468675

There's no way that a Yamato of that level of play should be in my lobby. ~25k when the rest of the lobby was hovering around 10k, 35 kills at the end of the match, no username displayed so it's impossible to check. I refuse to believe this isn't someone smurfing if it isn't a matchmaking error.

 

[skipperdoeswork]

Yeah, so not only was this the elo gap of the century, like 19k Page at 28 mins, BUT LOOK AT THE 6 COUNTERS THE GAME GAVE ME.

LIKE BRO I POP ULT AND IF I DON'T GET CARTED, I'M GETTING LASH ULTED, TORNADO'D, BOLUS'D, AND IF I DON'T GET ULT OFF IT'S LASSO INTO CHAIN INTO LASH ULT INTO TORNADO INTO BOLUS INTO DOORMAN ULT. GIVE ME A DRAFT OR I'M NEVER PLAYING THIS GAME AGAIN. THERE'S NO WAY THE RNG IS THIS BAD. If you actually go watch the VOD on this, I got ONE ult off all game that didn't get insta countered. I'm Alchemist 2 btw. Insta bolus, insta cart, insta tornado. INSTANT.

And yes, I would've LOVED to buy unstoppable but, 28 min game, not so simple. I either have unstoppable at 28 mins and I tickle, or I have damage and can kill, but no unstoppable. If I had maybe 40 seconds to do a camp before end, I could've had it. But it seemed like they hit their push timings RIGHT before a big power spike of mine.

I want to enjoy the game but it's so hard when, not only do I get to play against 135 hour Pickle smurf who plays like a 2k hour ascendant, but I also get to play against 6 rng hard counters bc no draft. Like, NICE! I GOT HAZE! INTO EVERY COUNTER THAT EXISTS.

 

[Brochelle]

another trash fucking match.

look at this intellectually challenged Vindicta with 0/9 amd 17k damage.

why am i in a match with this trash?

what is the fucking point.

 

[dimverydark]

44475386

 

[nachoslug]

Match ID: 44475069

Stats speak for themselves. 20-40K soul difference all game. 4 team mates with terrible KD's with very little map/game knowledge.

 

[SardineS]

We don't know what they're doing with initiate ranks but it's theorized new accounts start with a negative mmr to smooth out the new player experience. Plus there's the problem that all we see are the average ranks post game, so there could be bad matchmaking based on averaging mmr that doesnt have anything to do with ranks having "imperceptiple" skill levels but instead the problem is how the vastly different ranks are allowed to be put together. I know whenever I get new players on my team it's because someone queued with them in a party and the game finds a way to average the mmr that way.

Thank you for the even handed responses.

 

[PaveMentman]

Match ID 44468675

There's no way that a Yamato of that level of play should be in my lobby. ~25k when the rest of the lobby was hovering around 10k, 35 kills at the end of the match, no username displayed so it's impossible to check. I refuse to believe this isn't someone smurfing if it isn't a matchmaking error.

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Not an impossibility to check on the player-profiles.

Match details:
https://statlocker.gg/match/44468675/summary

The match history page of the Yamato-player (picture / icon of a "broken heart emoji"):
https://statlocker.gg/profile/1220282600/matches
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[Brochelle]

Wow again look at this trash.

Fucking 3/10 mina with 89 obj damage.

Fucking 12k damage Abrahms with 625 obj damage.

Why am I stuck with these shit fucking players constantly?

Can you not weed out who is fucking useless?

 

[HungryPumpkn]

I had two unbalanced matches tonight where the enemy team was two full grades ahead of our team. If I play solo, I usually get anywhere between Archon to Phantom matches, but these were duos where I usually get Emissary-Archon with my teammate.

Match ID: 44480332

Unbalanced team rankings. Their whole team was superior to ours, especially the Abrams and Mirage in the way they moved.



Match ID: 44484942

This match was also unbalanced in basically the same ways as the first. The enemy team had the advantage from the start (except for my lane) and was generally better in every way than our teammates.

 

[hecate]

44490487

i just think that an ivy/paige against a mirage/mcginnis lane assignment Should Not Happen, i know that lane swaps are the solution to lanes like that but i raise that if we can't draft we shouldn't get matchups of two of the weakest laners vs two of the strongest laners

 

[amour]

JUST SHIT, EVERYTIME I HAVE LINE VS ORACLES (im emmisary 2). TY for this exprience

 

[catcat]

Match ID: 44493647

Paradox with 39/0 KD and 62k souls while everyone else was around 16k to 30k.

 

[boris.ekov]

44509899
Very lopsided.