What the actual f***?

And he hasn't bought any spirit items yet. Wait until he buys them and you'll be taking 700-1000 poison damage :sneaky:
 
I mean she has eight gun items including glass canon which based on how well shes doing she probably has plenty of stacks on. On top of that , Vyper's firing spread is so crazy that the listed dps is really only if shes directly on top of you. She's incredibly fed and went all in on gun. Your two options are to look at the big number and get mad or go "wait maybe theres something i can buy to punish her for putting all her damage and half her defense on her gun"
 
buddy has never heard of withering whip or metal skin... just because you can't read what items do don't mean the devs are dumb... "choky for others" btw
>Character has unattainable for others amount of DPS
>Should be fixed and rebalanced
>You pointing on it
>"wELl, aCfUaLly, JuSt bUy mEtAl sHkiN"
>...
 
>Character has unattainable for others amount of DPS
>Should be fixed and rebalanced
>You pointing on it
>"wELl, aCfUaLly, JuSt bUy mEtAl sHkiN"
>...
bruh every character has some aspect that's "unattainable for others"; Vyper is fundamentally at her core about having S tier theoretical DPS, which is not in itself a problem as long as the rest of the kit is balanced around that strength.

From my experience playing her, her shitty range / extreme bloom mean she's really bad at safely dealing damage compared to various people with worse but still really high DPS, so her theoretical damage potential can go unrealized if there's just never a safe time for her to dive in. If she goes in against a group that has a Dynamo or a Mo or a Holliday... or a Wraith or a Bebop... (probably not an exhaustive list)... she can get movement locked and melted really fast, because she HAS to be close range to deal damage but she ISN'T much of a tank (aside from that Siphon Bullets meta lol) nor does she have an extreme escape button (as opposed to Pocket, another fragile close range person). She's just really happy against single targets, especially those with no lockdown or disarm or Return Fire.
 
bruh every character has some aspect that's "unattainable for others"; Vyper is fundamentally at her core about having S tier theoretical DPS, which is not in itself a problem as long as the rest of the kit is balanced around that strength.

From my experience playing her, her shitty range / extreme bloom mean she's really bad at safely dealing damage compared to various people with worse but still really high DPS, so her theoretical damage potential can go unrealized if there's just never a safe time for her to dive in. If she goes in against a group that has a Dynamo or a Mo or a Holliday... or a Wraith or a Bebop... (probably not an exhaustive list)... she can get movement locked and melted really fast, because she HAS to be close range to deal damage but she ISN'T much of a tank (aside from that Siphon Bullets meta lol) nor does she have an extreme escape button (as opposed to Pocket, another fragile close range person). She's just really happy against single targets, especially those with no lockdown or disarm or Return Fire.
>her shitty range
Get a better aim at CQB

>her theoretical damage potential can go unrealized
Skill issue

>never a safe time for her to dive in
Before patch most 1v1 are winnable (now too, just with a better aim)

>if she goes in against a group that has a Dynamo or a Mo or a Holliday... or a Wraith or a Bebop...
Skill issue, you just need to avoid being stopped, literally every other character

>she can get movement locked and melted really fast
Every other character, no cap

>because she HAS to be close range to deal damage
Literally most fights are CQB (20-40m)

>she ISN'T much of a tank
Bad build

>nor does she have an extreme escape button
Gigaslide + gazillion stamina

>She's just really happy against single targets, especially those with no lockdown or disarm or Return Fire.
Yes, as Haze, as Wraith, as Mo&Krill, as Abrams, as *put your hero name* Press 4 to stun against return fire
 
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