Smoke of deceit

[pargeo72]

Tier 4 item:
Active, in a large radius, all allies become stealthed and have increased movement speed
This stealth does NOT disappear when going too close and is fully invisible
it disappears whenever you deal damage to anyone for entire team
Once cast, any allies who enter smoke later also become smoked
Good for ganks, midboss and urn contests

 

[come219]

See the issue here is that you are losing an active item slot for smoke of deceit.

Also just an item by itself is somewhat 'better' than Shadow Weave.

Being a tier 4 would also mean it is very expensive for the effect too especially if there aren't passive stats to the item.

I have kinda suggested an upgraded veil walker that puts a veil wall that allies can use but thats another item that tried to do the role of smoke of deceit. (maybe it upgrades a targetted/existing veil so players can't place OP veils).

I do think that we need some kind of smoke of deceit item.

 

[pargeo72]

See the issue here is that you are losing an active item slot for smoke of deceit.

Also just an item by itself is somewhat 'better' than Shadow Weave.

Being a tier 4 would also mean it is very expensive for the effect too especially if there aren't passive stats to the item.

I have kinda suggested an upgraded veil walker that puts a veil wall that allies can use but thats another item that tried to do the role of smoke of deceit. (maybe it upgrades a targetted/existing veil so players can't place OP veils).

I do think that we need some kind of smoke of deceit item.

maybe hero ability?

 

[come219]

maybe hero ability?

Yea many suggested Mirana ultimate but personally until we get dust or sentries idk if it will work

 

[d0g]

Tier 4 item:
Active, in a large radius, all allies become stealthed and have increased movement speed

Why not have it as a single use item, like in dota?
Make it go into extra "support" item slots or smth so it doesn't mess up the rest of the items.

This stealth does NOT disappear when going too close and is fully invisible

I disagree, I think it would be cool to work like in dota. But I understand that the map is smaller and smoke might break through walls. But I think that's interesting and makes the item less broken.

Once cast, any allies who enter smoke later also become smoked
Good for ganks, midboss and urn contests

Overall yes, it's a great idea and we really need something like this. We already have veil walker and such.

I came to suggest this here too after seeing a dynamo that couldn't be motivated to go use his ult.