Shiv's Bloodletting prevents him from being executed by his Killing blow

[SoulVuna]

If you try to execute Shiv with his Killing blow his bloodletting prevents him from being executed and leaves him on a sliver of hp until his bloodletting kills him. I noticed this on matches where I was Sinclair and I would use his Killing blow on him and he wouldn't die from it at the execute threshold

 

[iamsocktopus]

i think that's working as intended. he defers damage, and i guess he defers the damage from execute but it just takes a second to kill him, like with geist swap

 

[Dead Man Dan]

I play shiv and this is a known interaction, but it should not work in this way in my opinion.

In Dota when playing Axe and using his execute, you bypass all forms of protection except linken's sphere. - Shallow Grave, False Promise, and Borrowed Time are abilities which functionally make a character invincible by deferring, preventing, or inverting damage and even those do not prevent the execute. I expect the same kind of interactions from deadlock considering the games share DNA

 

[barlakopofai]

Will clarify that you can't bypass the Linken's Sphere simply because you never apply Cull in the first place, not because it actually defends you from the HP% threshold of the Cull. Like how Counterspell works, basically

Also Dota is just good to look at in general because it has 20 years of looking at why making it work this way is stupid and doesn't work. More games should be willing to do that

 

[SoulVuna]

al

i think that's working as intended. he defers damage, and i guess he defers the damage from execute but it just takes a second to kill him, like with geist swap

I thought it did too but Vindicta's Assassinate bypasses his bloodletting killing him whenever he glows purple so its only a Killing blow interaction

 

[barlakopofai]

al

I thought it did too but Vindicta's Assassinate bypasses his bloodletting killing him whenever he glows purple so its only a Killing blow interaction

I think it's simply because the shiv execute just removes the percentage of HP remaining instead of applying a kill command to whatever doesn't pass the check. Similar to how the spy's knife deals 600% HP and under rare conditions that was survivable even though it was meant to be an instakill.

 

[SoulVuna]

I think it's simply because the shiv execute just removes the percentage of HP remaining instead of applying a kill command to whatever doesn't pass the check. Similar to how the spy's knife deals 600% HP and under rare conditions that was survivable even though it was meant to be an instakill.

Its weird too because Vindictas is a damage boost to her Assassinate and not a execute and will always kill Shiv after a Hp threshold is met but Shiv will no matter what always survive the execute from Killing blow at any hp besides 1 even at 6hp he will survive with 3hp left

 

[barlakopofai]

Its weird too because Vindictas is a damage boost to her Assassinate and not a execute and will always kill Shiv after a Hp threshold is met but Shiv will no matter what always survive the execute from Killing blow at any hp besides 1 even at 6hp he will survive with 3hp left

Now that you mention it the vindicta ult does seem bugged. The max damage rampup should be 190 and the damage deferred should be 40%, and yet Vindicta has no problems killing a shiv that has above 200 HP.