Scout Cleaver + Sandman Combo

[oli.ruane]

I am a long time TF2 enjoyer and I was very sad when the Cleaver Sandman Combo got nerfed.
Maybe we can get it back in Deadlock as part of a Heros kit.

I can imagine a "vintage" baseball player kind of hero.

Abilities
1. Touch base: Added movementspeed for X Seconds. Sliding prolongs this for Y Seconds to a maximum of Z Seconds.
2. Cleaver: Throw Cleaver, with damage depending on flight distance. Adds bleed (Does additional Damage to stunned targets.)
3. Catch: Maybe something like the Backplast from the Pyro in TF2, but with a single projectile? Or just "negate" a projectile by catching it in a glove

Ult: Charge based, Take out baseball bat to yeet ball. Slows on hit and stuns after flying for treshhold distance.

Melee: Baseball bat obviously
Main weapon: Scattergun type? Maybe something more like the fan? So small clip with fast reload.

 

[mrsam1804]

Had this hero idea aswell awhile ago, but couldnt come up with something up would really like, tried to come up with a primary meele hero with bat attacks and a very slow coach gun on his right mouse button. And with your ult, with maybe a witch doctors stun that bounces of people heads chain stunning them. And couple of gap closering attacks like Lash + Majestic leap, with a strong bat attack, but this is kind of what Lash has. I like your concept and similarity, maybe you can make this work? Food for thought.

I really would like to see a scout yankee hero in this game lol.
For the 3rd ability i think theres not enough projecles that could be negated, but i fancy the idea throwing back Lady Geists bombs and knives at her. We really need a reflect type of ability so bad.

 

[oli.ruane]

Yeah true, projectiles are not as well defined and regularly used as in TF2.

Although I am a big fan of cask I don't like it for this as I see the Hero as a Single Target Menace. So stun cleaver nuke boy, taking on the big boys like the Scout in his "Meet the Scout". Maybe he could have a Sandwich as his 3: "Squat down to eat a sandwich restoring some health and 2 stamina."

 

[thomaslukeduffin]

Sandman would be a great charged ability. Upgrades could include longer stun time, ricochet effect (for extra damage OR to spread the stun out?). High skill cap with the projectile effect, similar to landing a long range shiv/haze knife.

You've also got crit/dodge sodas which could charge with movement like in TF2 (Similar to how rage on shiv charges with damage), or just regular time-based stuff. Upgrades would be stuff like longer-duration, strong effects, cooldown (the usual).

Milk for team damage lifesteal. Cleaver is a bit too much like Shiv's knives so maybe not that one. Upgrades are pretty straightforward here too.

Passive ability could be mini crit/crit damage, perhaps target slow? There's a lot you can do here, and integrating crit damage into his main weapon would be a nice way to add crit SFX as a throwback. There's also stuff like his movement - double jumps are one of Scout's iconic abilities and having a hero with super high basic mobility would be awesome.

Ultimate abilities are the hard ones to think of, but to tie it into the sandman's taunt which is an insta-kill swing with a massive windup, you could do something similar with a big charge time and area swing to do a large spirit-damage with stun. Hard to land, but a stunned hero with your charged baseball into a big ol' SMACK with the bat would be a satisfying gank/initiator combo.