Refresher Graves Is Too Strong

Sir Veyza

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Currently it feels that Graves' Ult with Duration Extender and Refresher just applies too much wave pressure. I don't think she shouldn't be able to use Refresher, but I think maybe limiting the Gravestones to one active at a time is probably a good compromise. Especially in a team fight on lane, it almost guarantees a losing fight for the team without her on it.
 
Currently it feels that Graves' Ult with Duration Extender and Refresher just applies too much wave pressure. I don't think she shouldn't be able to use Refresher, but I think maybe limiting the Gravestones to one active at a time is probably a good compromise. Especially in a team fight on lane, it almost guarantees a losing fight for the team without her on it.
Have you tried breaking her tombstone? Two punches and you'll break it. The character is already weak; weakening it even more would be like deleting it from the game.
 
Currently it feels that Graves' Ult with Duration Extender and Refresher just applies too much wave pressure. I don't think she shouldn't be able to use Refresher, but I think maybe limiting the Gravestones to one active at a time is probably a good compromise. Especially in a team fight on lane, it almost guarantees a losing fight for the team without her on it.

Agreed. Her Ult can be highly oppressive and she can push lanes extremely fucking hard. I am honestly fine with buffing the rest of her kit slightly if it means you can damage the tombstone with guns or something.
 
Currently it feels that Graves' Ult with Duration Extender and Refresher just applies too much wave pressure. I don't think she shouldn't be able to use Refresher, but I think maybe limiting the Gravestones to one active at a time is probably a good compromise. Especially in a team fight on lane, it almost guarantees a losing fight for the team without her on it.
go post this here instead.
 
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