OdinVertbotenTV
Member
It's worse than you can imagine due to grouping. I find it hilarious Valve is actively blocking the ability to see groups on tracking sites because they know just how badly the system is being abused.
Bad Matchmaking Thread
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If that's the Kanye Weast I'm thinking of they only say slurs from the start of the match
Rogmaw
New member
Match ID 75084378
Game tilted extremely lopsided. But I don't think it was mainly due to player skill levels mismatch, rather it seems like the matchmaking made a really bad job at matching up team comps.
They ended up with 3 gun damage carries and 3 support. Our side had 2 which could be support but both also doesn't really fall squarely in that role, and there where other roles needed to be filled maybe more.
Match ended up extremely lopsided because Mo, Dynamo and Ivy all denied our team from being able to do anything and where tough to kill, until their gun heroes then took over mid game and we where unable to do anything to flip it at that point.
Game tilted extremely lopsided. But I don't think it was mainly due to player skill levels mismatch, rather it seems like the matchmaking made a really bad job at matching up team comps.
They ended up with 3 gun damage carries and 3 support. Our side had 2 which could be support but both also doesn't really fall squarely in that role, and there where other roles needed to be filled maybe more.
Match ended up extremely lopsided because Mo, Dynamo and Ivy all denied our team from being able to do anything and where tough to kill, until their gun heroes then took over mid game and we where unable to do anything to flip it at that point.
weedgremling
New member
At this point I’m honestly struggling to see how a new player is supposed to get into this game at all. Trying to learn the core game feels almost pointless when most matches are completely onesided either you get stomped by players clearly way above your level, or you roll the enemy team just as hard. There’s almost never an actual, competitive game in between.
I’m not talking about being slightly outmatched in your lane where it feels impossible to gain a lead. I mean games where one player is so far ahead that the rest of the lobby might as well not exist. For example:
Match ID: 75073366
This game was effectively over in ~20 minutes. One player went 16–3 massive lead going around getting everyone else fed as well resulting in our apollo disconnecting and sparing us the 45 minute base rape fest for once.
Match ID: 74723069
Queued with a friend who just started the game, and we ran into someone who ended 36/7 with 72k souls while everyone else was around 20-30k. Watching the replay, they’re playing at a completely different level perfect map movement, hitting everything, confidently diving multiple players. Whether it’s smurfing or just matchmaking failing, the result is the same: new players don’t stand a chance.
And that’s really the core issue. In Initiate/Seeker, you constantly run into accounts that look like smurfs. Fresh profiles lvl 0 or in general low level profiles with 1-5 friends and "one stop shopper tag" but clearly experienced players. Maybe not all of them are, but enough are that it completely warps the experience.
Because of that, new players never actually get to learn or even play. You don’t get to practice basics, understand heroes or improv you just get run over. I’ve already had most of my friends quit, and the one left refuses to queue anything except Street Brawl because the main mode feels like you are there to entertain a veteran on his 5th smurf account of the week not to play or learn.
What makes it worse is the lack of a surrender option. When a game is clearly over (like 50k+ leads, base open for 10–15 minutes) you’re forced to sit through it while the winning team drags it out as long as possible. Why would they end it if they just farm as much kills and feel like a god gamer for as long as possible...
I’m not talking about being slightly outmatched in your lane where it feels impossible to gain a lead. I mean games where one player is so far ahead that the rest of the lobby might as well not exist. For example:
Match ID: 75073366
This game was effectively over in ~20 minutes. One player went 16–3 massive lead going around getting everyone else fed as well resulting in our apollo disconnecting and sparing us the 45 minute base rape fest for once.
Match ID: 74723069
Queued with a friend who just started the game, and we ran into someone who ended 36/7 with 72k souls while everyone else was around 20-30k. Watching the replay, they’re playing at a completely different level perfect map movement, hitting everything, confidently diving multiple players. Whether it’s smurfing or just matchmaking failing, the result is the same: new players don’t stand a chance.
And that’s really the core issue. In Initiate/Seeker, you constantly run into accounts that look like smurfs. Fresh profiles lvl 0 or in general low level profiles with 1-5 friends and "one stop shopper tag" but clearly experienced players. Maybe not all of them are, but enough are that it completely warps the experience.
Because of that, new players never actually get to learn or even play. You don’t get to practice basics, understand heroes or improv you just get run over. I’ve already had most of my friends quit, and the one left refuses to queue anything except Street Brawl because the main mode feels like you are there to entertain a veteran on his 5th smurf account of the week not to play or learn.
What makes it worse is the lack of a surrender option. When a game is clearly over (like 50k+ leads, base open for 10–15 minutes) you’re forced to sit through it while the winning team drags it out as long as possible. Why would they end it if they just farm as much kills and feel like a god gamer for as long as possible...
throwawaym8
Active member
This is how all Valve games are unfortunately. They don't moderate their games. Smurfs, cheaters, griefers, account buyers/sellers, etc. will be in most lobbies.
Valve has the money and resources to make their games more enjoyable for legit players, but they don't because they simply do not care.
Domineeriv
Active member
Match ID 75117461
Just a lack of synergy in the team and felt like a draft difference. Them having the best M1 heroes, frontliners, pick heroes and our team having 5 squishy m1 heroes with 1 support felt a bit meh.
Just a lack of synergy in the team and felt like a draft difference. Them having the best M1 heroes, frontliners, pick heroes and our team having 5 squishy m1 heroes with 1 support felt a bit meh.
Whenever I play solo (seeker 3) I get teammates way inferior to me, whenever I play with a friend (ritualist) we get teammates that are just new or straight up feed it.
Match ID's solo:
75113422
74875867
73279363
73594149
Match ID's with friend (snorlax):
74830110
74821983
74636409
73019487
Match ID's solo:
75113422
74875867
73279363
73594149
Match ID's with friend (snorlax):
74830110
74821983
74636409
73019487
squabbernack
New member
Match ID: 75120888
Several people on the hidden king team were extremely misplaced compared to opponents. I mean they seemed like they were still figuring out the basics of the game while the enemies played like they had 100+ games (which seems appropriate for the rank) and knew what was going on. Very unbalanced matchmaking.
Several people on the hidden king team were extremely misplaced compared to opponents. I mean they seemed like they were still figuring out the basics of the game while the enemies played like they had 100+ games (which seems appropriate for the rank) and knew what was going on. Very unbalanced matchmaking.
Domineeriv
Active member
Match ID 75123067
Felt like the match was just... a steamroll due to Haze. Nobody listening to comms and them having so many better heroes for contesting mid and doing anything.
Also, Ascendant V lobby. Yesterday I was in an Eternus 6 lobby. I wish Mathcmaking would stop being so all over the damn place.
Match ID 75130102
Not only was it another Ascendant 5 lobby, the enemy team had just a 1000% better draft with Mirage, Lady Geist, Dynamo... just in general felt like it wasn't winnable at all, especially since many on our team didn't perform well.
But my biggest complaint is 1000% why am I being put in so many different lobbies? There's over one (!) rank variant in my lobbies and it just feels so bad. The tempo between Ascendant 5 and Eternus 6 is just so damn different, and it's just not fun to be thrown around like this at all. I just want to be placed in lobbies that corresponds to my rank (Eternus 4 at the moment) and have a fair chance of getting better; not being placed in absolute stomps or steamrolls all the time.
Felt like the match was just... a steamroll due to Haze. Nobody listening to comms and them having so many better heroes for contesting mid and doing anything.
Also, Ascendant V lobby. Yesterday I was in an Eternus 6 lobby. I wish Mathcmaking would stop being so all over the damn place.
Match ID 75130102
Not only was it another Ascendant 5 lobby, the enemy team had just a 1000% better draft with Mirage, Lady Geist, Dynamo... just in general felt like it wasn't winnable at all, especially since many on our team didn't perform well.
But my biggest complaint is 1000% why am I being put in so many different lobbies? There's over one (!) rank variant in my lobbies and it just feels so bad. The tempo between Ascendant 5 and Eternus 6 is just so damn different, and it's just not fun to be thrown around like this at all. I just want to be placed in lobbies that corresponds to my rank (Eternus 4 at the moment) and have a fair chance of getting better; not being placed in absolute stomps or steamrolls all the time.
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testingdeadlocks
Member
MatchID: 75149621
2 players doing nothing entire game
Vindicta and Geist were parties
barely any objective damage and teamfight contribution was always press 1 spell and back out to afk farming jungle
2 players doing nothing entire game
Vindicta and Geist were parties
barely any objective damage and teamfight contribution was always press 1 spell and back out to afk farming jungle
Fergus Bentley
Active member
75155396 how is matchmaking still this bad
Domineeriv
Active member
Match ID 75158507
Another ascendant V lobby where it just felt like there was nothing one could do. Enemy team just having a better team comp (lash ult into dynamo ult into a seven that just steamrolls) and our team maybe having 1 hero that's considered S-tier.
I'm getting tired of this uneven matchmaking.
Another ascendant V lobby where it just felt like there was nothing one could do. Enemy team just having a better team comp (lash ult into dynamo ult into a seven that just steamrolls) and our team maybe having 1 hero that's considered S-tier.
I'm getting tired of this uneven matchmaking.
thesick809
New member
75162810
Nice draft + matchmaking, somehowsomeway the celeste has 0 green investment, also that comp has 0 M1 heros vs venator wraith, thank you for this!
Nice draft + matchmaking, somehowsomeway the celeste has 0 green investment, also that comp has 0 M1 heros vs venator wraith, thank you for this!
Domineeriv
Active member
Match ID 75165439
8 losses in a row once again, 8 games where it just feels like playing is an absolute slog and the games are horrible. So why am I being put in Ascendant 4 lobbies as an Eternus 4? I thought Eternus 4 people can't even queue up with people who are Eternus 1? Why is the matchmaking such absolute garbage?
Once again, it was a steamroll and stomp from the enemy team. How is this pleasant or enjoyable in any way? It isn't. Jesus.
8 losses in a row once again, 8 games where it just feels like playing is an absolute slog and the games are horrible. So why am I being put in Ascendant 4 lobbies as an Eternus 4? I thought Eternus 4 people can't even queue up with people who are Eternus 1? Why is the matchmaking such absolute garbage?
Once again, it was a steamroll and stomp from the enemy team. How is this pleasant or enjoyable in any way? It isn't. Jesus.
manwithamission101
New member
Match ID: 75173415
One sided-stomp. Shiv on Hidden King team started flaming in chat extremely earlier and continued playing through whole game based on my teammates conversations to him (I muted Shiv after first complaint).
One sided-stomp. Shiv on Hidden King team started flaming in chat extremely earlier and continued playing through whole game based on my teammates conversations to him (I muted Shiv after first complaint).
75137298 we stomped them 20 min
75190127 why am i placed inlower rank? That was unpleasant as i was playing with people that seemed to first play the game , not fun when its supposed to be asc+://
75175608 here also, new teammates, statlock shows mid ritualist :O
75121427 here half their team seemed new
75114708 again we stomp them 20 min in
75190127 why am i placed inlower rank? That was unpleasant as i was playing with people that seemed to first play the game , not fun when its supposed to be asc+://
75175608 here also, new teammates, statlock shows mid ritualist :O
75121427 here half their team seemed new
75114708 again we stomp them 20 min in
Domineeriv
Active member
Match ID 75194227
Yet another stomp from the enemy team. Not only that, their comp was just a lot better with many strong heroes and our team having two people who - one I think was griefing (left lane and didn't do anything almost the first 30 minutes of the game). The enemy team just kept steamrolling us. Vyper in particular was struggling, yet again.
Yet another stomp from the enemy team. Not only that, their comp was just a lot better with many strong heroes and our team having two people who - one I think was griefing (left lane and didn't do anything almost the first 30 minutes of the game). The enemy team just kept steamrolling us. Vyper in particular was struggling, yet again.
