Bad Matchmaking Thread

Eternus 6 in a trio stack with phantoms on the other team while I'm triod with an oracle and a phantom (I was archon 1 before this game). We lose because our team has the lower ranked team but I lose an entire rank over this game. If I play on the other team however I wont climb from this game. Please either make it clear how mmr differences between teams impact gain/loss. I should not be losing ranks for going against a team we had 0 chance beating in the first place.

For context the screenshots after the first were all games i won in a row without gaining a single rank.1757924283779.png1757924540102.png1757924573760.png1757924520539.png
 
Another great one!
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Wraith went 0-8-0 and blamed me for "not knowing what to do in the game"
Whatever brand of delusion he's buying I want some too. Me and Mina destroyed Calico and Drifter in lane, and somehow they are still fed when the game is over. There is no way Valve can get good statistics out of this or any form of decent player relations. Guessing the other team was a 6-stack vs randoms?

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Some interesting context when checking lane stats on this game:
Both lanes I had no control over lost with a huge margin.

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If this doesn't tell you that there's something wrong with how these players were teamed up against eachother, then I don't know what would.

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The enemy Calico was wrecking us the entire match and they turned out to be in Eternus. Excuse my language here, but why the fuck is an Eternus player wrecking the lobbies in Emissary-Ritualist?? This is so beyond unfair and frustrating because there's nothing one can do against that, the skill level discrepancy is just too high. I'm hoping these reports are genuinely being looked into, because this just is beyond frustrating going on a losing spree because your team didn't get the Eternus player on their team.
I don't think they look into the reports. It's just there so you feel good about reporting people after game.
 
I have never played a game in which the matchmaking's skill matching had been so terrible. Even COD has better matchmaking than this. Unlike COD, I can't carry a whole team by myself when it doesn't seem like they don't possess two brain cells that can click together to follow simple strategies. No amount of shotcalling has saved any of my games - lord knows I have tried. Elo hell is real in this game

At least give me an option to reset my rank so I can at least place in a rank that has smarter, more competent players

Match IDs:
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If someone is willing to do a gameplay review and help me at least crawl a little more out of this hell, please let me know
I checked these games on statlocker and you had:
- a 69% advantage in lane first game Y (enemy advantage Y: 11%, B: 19%)
- a 24% advantage second game B (enemy advantage G: 2%, team 24% Y)
- a 7% advantage third game B (enemy advantage Y: 16%, team B: 7%)
- a 8% advantage fourth game B (enemy advantage Y: 46%, G: 26%)
- a 27% advantage fifth game G (enemy advantage Y: 6%, B 12%)

Statlocker wouldn't let me check the live map on all games, but from what I can tell it's a matter of as soon as a fight starts somewhere the entire team comes running and over-engages, leading to brawls where you lose objectives without kills, meaning they have reduced souls gained in lane too. They're basically denying themselves the resources to win the game.

A pretty good example where you too participate in this is in the game 41995416 where you lose paradox and are down one player but still fight in the open when you lost objective already and mid is being pushed.

I feel like players overall, especially new ones, chase kills way way way too much. They think they're playing a regular hero shooter when it should be thought of as a economy simulator and fast scrims. This is something I see in my own games too. A fight starts to defend a walker, then more players join in and once the enemy disengages my team chases, gets turned on and lose the fight, leading to death times where they can't farm AND losing the walker anyway.

The biggest issue with matchmaking isn't players mechanical skills, it's the insane difference in macro knowledge.
 
Pretty much all my matches are horribly mismatched. I go against way better players (always higher rank) and usually get destroyed and it's reached a point where this game is unstreamable for me. I just sit there being miserable getting pathetic numbers and it's not a good look for your game if people see that. Why does your matchmaker think im the best player in EU?

I mean check this out 42253484. Im Seeker 4 so why am I in an Arcanist lobby?

Im not even convinced I should be Seeker 4 because even in Seeker 4 matches this happens:

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If you watch the match you might think like "Man Sif, you play like you have an IQ of 60" well yes I do because I do have an IQ of 60. So why am I Seeker 4?
 
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Sigh.

Match 42265854. Almost 100k soul difference between teams. At least 5k difference between me and anyone else on my team, and I'm still lower than the lowest on the other team. No one defending or pushing except for me.

Can you just return my rank to the one before rank decay? This is ridiculous.
 
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Guy on our team literally says it's his first Sinclair game. What happened to character based MMR? Don't say it if it isn't true, Valve.
 
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We won the game but getting constant teammates Like Accent Gap and Hyperion calling everyone faggot fucking shit head nigger retards gets really old.

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Another day, another extremely painful matches.

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3 supports/burst dmg, 2 bruiser and 1 dps vs 6 direct dmgs. Of course 6 direct dmgs is going to win. I have no idea how MM thought this was a good idea.
 
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got put against the same 4 stack where they had 2 phantoms in a match thats supposed to be low archon
 
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Haze and Billy kept being extremely toxic in voice chat after they had played with the drifter last match, continuously flaming and harassing both him and me after Drifter apparently reported them last match for similar toxicity. Not only that, but it felt unwinnable from the start with them having multiple strong DPS and our DPS throwing/refusing to play the game and only flame others. Not at all playing on the level they should be playing.
I think you should not be put in lobbies where two people have reported each other and keeps flaming and harassing one another throughout the entire game. When I report I want to avoid that person on my team in the future.
 
These ranks are a lie. I played in this forsaken match so I know they are a lie, and every time this system comes back with "oh this was a fair match" I know the game is lying. So the simple question is why the fuck are these in the game to begin with if they can't be even remotely correct.

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