Leto
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I would like to see Apollo's default standing / shooting stance changed to have his non-sword hand behind his back at a 45-degree angle.
Holding one's non-sword hand behind the back is a tradition in some forms of fencing, due to rules prohibiting the use of it for defense. It also serves as a counterbalance and overall provides extra movement control.
This is in particular a quirk of classical fencing (might even be specifically italian?) which again, would fit Apollo's character as a haughty (and presumably old money) rich kid.
It's how I learned to fence, and I feel like visually it conveys a nonplussed, almost entirely disinterested vibe that would work with Apollo's personality.
A further example of the stance I have in mind, maybe even with the palm/hand further inwards on his back:
The other common stances for the non-sword arm are hand-on-hip, or raised / more loose and dynamic, but those would look weirder in-game and be less fitting thematically imo. His current pose just looks kind of awkward and impractical.
(Disclaimer: there are many types, schools and traditions of fencing. There is a lot of overlap but also a whole lot of variation. I don't claim to be a fencing scholar, I've just practiced one form of it & I'm throwing in my two cents.)
Please Yoshi, I will never complain about anything Deadlock related ever again if you guys implement this.
Holding one's non-sword hand behind the back is a tradition in some forms of fencing, due to rules prohibiting the use of it for defense. It also serves as a counterbalance and overall provides extra movement control.
This is in particular a quirk of classical fencing (might even be specifically italian?) which again, would fit Apollo's character as a haughty (and presumably old money) rich kid.
It's how I learned to fence, and I feel like visually it conveys a nonplussed, almost entirely disinterested vibe that would work with Apollo's personality.
A further example of the stance I have in mind, maybe even with the palm/hand further inwards on his back:
The other common stances for the non-sword arm are hand-on-hip, or raised / more loose and dynamic, but those would look weirder in-game and be less fitting thematically imo. His current pose just looks kind of awkward and impractical.
(Disclaimer: there are many types, schools and traditions of fencing. There is a lot of overlap but also a whole lot of variation. I don't claim to be a fencing scholar, I've just practiced one form of it & I'm throwing in my two cents.)
Please Yoshi, I will never complain about anything Deadlock related ever again if you guys implement this.
To be fair, his 1 already has a variation of an en garde position:
His 3 kind of has a lunge (though his legs look floaty and he should be lower to the ground, this might be a stylistic choice + an issue of hitbox readability):
And his ult has him put the sword arm behind his back, which looks cool and all, but it's also not.. a thing? In fencing, at least (just saying):
(And if you wish to go further down this rabbit hole yourself, I quite liked this write-up: https://traditionalfencing.wordpress.com/2016/10/26/misconceptions-about-northern-italian-sabre/)
That is all. Thanks for reading!
His 3 kind of has a lunge (though his legs look floaty and he should be lower to the ground, this might be a stylistic choice + an issue of hitbox readability):
And his ult has him put the sword arm behind his back, which looks cool and all, but it's also not.. a thing? In fencing, at least (just saying):
(And if you wish to go further down this rabbit hole yourself, I quite liked this write-up: https://traditionalfencing.wordpress.com/2016/10/26/misconceptions-about-northern-italian-sabre/)
That is all. Thanks for reading!
