Ivy - Watcher's Covenant heals Ivy for 70% replicated healing instead of 35%

[Timbre]

My understanding of Watcher's Covenant prior to the changes is that any source of healing besides Watcher's Covenant itself was replicated to others in the link. In lane, this meant that both sides would receive a percentage of the other person's health regen and lifesteal for example. It also meant that picking up the orb from the healing minion would give extra health to both people.

I tested with the changes and now it seems like it ONLY replicates healing that was sourced from Ivy. This means that the passive regen and lifesteal from Ivy still go to the partner, but not the other way around, and the orb from the healing minion is not replicated at all. The only way that Ivy gets anything from the other end of the link now is if Ivy is the one giving the healing, such as through Healing Rite, Rescue Beam, Healing Nova, or Restorative Locket, in which case Ivy will receive a portion of the healing given to the ally.

Is this intended behavior? It seems to me like the fix removed a major aspect of the ability's functionality rather than fixing a strange interaction, as it means that Ivy won't receive anything from the other end of the link unless they use healing items. This is a pretty big deal, as I would often link myself to gun carries and get a decent chunk of healing back from their lifesteal.

So partially fixed, partially broken now :c

 

[Yoshi]

My understanding of Watcher's Covenant prior to the changes is that any source of healing besides Watcher's Covenant itself was replicated to others in the link. In lane, this meant that both sides would receive a percentage of the other person's health regen and lifesteal for example. It also meant that picking up the orb from the healing minion would give extra health to both people.

I tested with the changes and now it seems like it ONLY replicates healing that was sourced from Ivy. This means that the passive regen and lifesteal from Ivy still go to the partner, but not the other way around, and the orb from the healing minion is not replicated at all. The only way that Ivy gets anything from the other end of the link now is if Ivy is the one giving the healing, such as through Healing Rite, Rescue Beam, Healing Nova, or Restorative Locket, in which case Ivy will receive a portion of the healing given to the ally.

Is this intended behavior? It seems to me like the fix removed a major aspect of the ability's functionality rather than fixing a strange interaction, as it means that Ivy won't receive anything from the other end of the link unless they use healing items. This is a pretty big deal, as I would often link myself to gun carries and get a decent chunk of healing back from their lifesteal.

Is this fixed now?

 

[Bolarola]

Is this fixed now?

Yes, this appears to be fixed, thanks! I tested in sandbox and was able to get linked healing from ally regen, lifesteal, and healing minion orb, so it should be working as intended now.

 

[Theatre]

Is this fixed now?

Not fixed. Haven't tested everything but as one immediate example: If Ivy tethers to an ally and then the ally uses Healing Nova, the heal being applied to both players won't trigger the tether's sharing at all. (edit: I just realized I don’t think I really checked if the tethered ally was getting benefit or not. I knew that Ivy wasn’t, though.)

also (per Smokezound in the #ivy channel) the heal minion orb share doesn't trigger the tether share if a tethered player other than Ivy is the one that picks up the heal orb

 

[Playeroth]

(build #6,073) ivy seems to be receiving a super reduced replication of the healing / tether overall is replicating almost nothing



E: Not a bug, i was confused about the replication and this new fix looks a bit strange for me. What is bugged is ally healing that does not replicate

 

[Theatre]

(build #6,073) ivy seems to be receiving a super reduced replication of the healing / tether overall is replicating almost nothing
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Is this you being tethered to another person and both of you using Nova at the same time?

 

[Playeroth]

Is this you being tethered to another person and both of you using Nova at the same time?

me as ivy tethered to +1 used nova only once, if ally uses nova then you get nothing but if ivy uses you get like 15% than 35% back i guess.

2 connected get you pretty bad value

i guess if youre the one using Nova and connected you will get back a very short value, while if someone else uses nova and youre connected you get nothing




E: not a bug

 

[Theatre]

me as ivy tethered to +1 used nova only once, if ally uses nova then you get nothing but if ivy uses you get like 15% than 35% back

You’re saying a single nova did the 644 heal shown in your screenshot? Nova doesn’t do that much even at max boons with tempo amp, plus I just tested it myself and it (Nova as Ivy while tethered to 1 ally) worked properly (52% of the heal to the ally bounced back to me).

To be clear: It’s still fucked if the non-Ivy ally is the one using Nova.

 

[Theatre]

Here's a fresh clip of Tether Nova working properly when Ivy is the one using it. (It's still bugged when the ally is the one using Nova.) My assumption continues to be that you accidentally used Nova on yourself and an ally at the same time, so the 644 you saw was your and the ally's novas added together, and the "super reduced replication" you saw was 35% of your own Nova.

 

[Playeroth]

Here's a fresh clip of Tether Nova working properly when Ivy is the one using it. (It's still bugged when the ally is the one using Nova.)

i see now, i was so used of getting like to 3x the healing value that this change fix looks strange for a bit.

yeah

 

[savageacrocanthosaurus]

Seems like replicated healing is just completely bricked all together now, this video was posted in the Ivy channel

 

[Stack Man]

Is this fixed now?

No, it only works properly if Ivy was the source of the healing or the one healed.

If a tether heals themselves or is healed by anyone other than Ivy, the healing is not replicated.

I tried the following tests with Restorative Locket:

With one Tether:

* Tether heals self: None to ivy
* Tether heals ivy: 35% to self
* ivy heals tether: 35% to self
* ivy heals self: 35% to tether

With two tethers:

* Tether heals other tether: None to self, None to ivy
* Tether heals self: None to other tether, none to ivy
* Ivy heals self: 35% to both tethers
* Tether heals ivy: 35% to both tethers
* Ivy heals tether: 35% to ivy and other tether

 

[Smokezound]

Everything listed for tether replication (1 target).

 

[Ragnaman]

^ Quality post holy.

 

[Yoshi]

We rewrote how some of the ability works, might have different issues let us know.

 

[Smokezound]

Works with everything, except Watcher's Covenant bullet lifesteal is no longer replicated to the target or to Ivy.

 

[savageacrocanthosaurus]

Yeah I was going to say, bullet life steal seems to not work with tether at all now

 

[Miko]

We rewrote how some of the ability works, might have different issues let us know.

Healing is not replicated with friendly troopers (only heroes) even though the ability specifies "connected allies". The other tether buffs do apply to troopers however.

 

[Yoshi]

Yeah I was going to say, bullet life steal seems to not work with tether at all now

This should be fixed now