I dont think the rest of my team believed me because he was bad enough that he still lost the lane after he killed me initially. However the replay makes it pretty obvious. Just check match 27670206 laning phase of infernus if you want to see for yourself. Anyway, is there anything else I can do speed up the process of banning him. Seeing as he has at least 50 matches in order to play ranked I really think the cheat detection is not fast enough.
Cheater Infernus in Oracle/Phantom Ranked
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I dont think the rest of my team believed me because he was bad enough that he still lost the lane after he killed me initially. However the replay makes it pretty obvious. Just check match 27670206 laning phase of infernus if you want to see for yourself. Anyway, is there anything else I can do speed up the process of banning him. Seeing as he has at least 50 matches in order to play ranked I really think the cheat detection is not fast enough.
What in this clip makes you think he was cheating? I see him stand still while you ignore him and he stacks his DoT on you for free, then you react way late.
Full hp vs 1-hit, you calmly walk to shop where the ganking area is. You don't buy HR and hide or leave to go heal or anything. You just kinda come back out the front with no hp.
Looking for the kill he initially goes the wrong way if he was walling (following where you went), taking *some tower damage he can afford (has creeps too) because you didn't shoot him back. Luckily he finds you while you have no angular velocity and are neatly standing in the middle of a doorway like a paper range target.
Full hp vs 1-hit, you calmly walk to shop where the ganking area is. You don't buy HR and hide or leave to go heal or anything. You just kinda come back out the front with no hp.
Looking for the kill he initially goes the wrong way if he was walling (following where you went), taking *some tower damage he can afford (has creeps too) because you didn't shoot him back. Luckily he finds you while you have no angular velocity and are neatly standing in the middle of a doorway like a paper range target.
Ragnaman
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He barely aims yet hits every shot, looks suspicious.
Kinda looks like whatever tools he is using is keeping his aim at the opponent even without really seeing the opponent.
Or whatever hardware tool he is using is drawing an overlay of the targets location.
The whole behaviour is unnatural, very easy to spot a cheater this way. They are overly aggressive, hunting for frags instead of souls in the laning phase.
Often used tactic by cheaters is this:
- use cheats to quickly get upper hand in the lanes first 5 minutes
- turn off cheats to not attract unwanted attention
The lane advantage you get with cheats in first 5 minutes can lead to a snowball effect. Often the cheaters are the super aggressive ones, because they have no fear with cheats on. If you play super defensive against them, often you can even beat them in terms of soul score because cheaters are low IQ and have no capability to think in long term.
Kinda looks like whatever tools he is using is keeping his aim at the opponent even without really seeing the opponent.
Or whatever hardware tool he is using is drawing an overlay of the targets location.
The whole behaviour is unnatural, very easy to spot a cheater this way. They are overly aggressive, hunting for frags instead of souls in the laning phase.
Often used tactic by cheaters is this:
- use cheats to quickly get upper hand in the lanes first 5 minutes
- turn off cheats to not attract unwanted attention
The lane advantage you get with cheats in first 5 minutes can lead to a snowball effect. Often the cheaters are the super aggressive ones, because they have no fear with cheats on. If you play super defensive against them, often you can even beat them in terms of soul score because cheaters are low IQ and have no capability to think in long term.
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Are you for real? His shots perfectly track the heads of me and the creeps nearby, even though the crosshair is nowhere near his target. This continues after this clip if you check the replay. Look how his shots (not his crosshair) pinpoint moving heads as soon as he sees them. He hits literally every shot.
Also this was the first wave, i had no money for HR and no stamina for dodges. And even if I had, me playing badly or not is completely besides the point. Look how his shots behave.
(And yes, i didnt react asap because I am not used to being laserbeamed for 90% of my hp at the first wave on my oracle/phantom mmr).
EDIT: Also I didnt even notice it, but on reviewing he perfectly tracks me through the wall near the end.
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Of course you would bring up rank as if it means something. It doesn't look like cheating, it looks like experience. Prefiring is real, he's prefiring vectors for low angular velocities. Have you done a lot of shooter game, vehicular combat games? That's a lot more relevant than your rank.
he matches your footwork, I would be on his screen that whole initial burst looked like a perfect track.
it DOES look like bad hitreg/bad network/lag/desynchronization in some capacity. Been gaming 30 years. Been every rank in so many games. Seen verified cheaters vs not in CS using match history (search for vac banned players). I don't see a toggle here.
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It literally looks 1:1 with this other thread you're claiming isn't cheating where aimed shots look like where there is a consistent offset in what's being displayed, but in the other guy's case you blame the replay system, which is exactly what it looks like here. Also I watched your replay, Infernus goes down bad dies twice as often as he gets a kill ends the game literally last place in score. He spends the entire game in YOLO send it mode, almost never pulls it off again, and then you win the game. I guess this cheater just has a losing kink.
he matches your footwork, I would be on his screen that whole initial burst looked like a perfect track.
it DOES look like bad hitreg/bad network/lag/desynchronization in some capacity. Been gaming 30 years. Been every rank in so many games. Seen verified cheaters vs not in CS using match history (search for vac banned players). I don't see a toggle here.
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It literally looks 1:1 with this other thread you're claiming isn't cheating where aimed shots look like where there is a consistent offset in what's being displayed, but in the other guy's case you blame the replay system, which is exactly what it looks like here. Also I watched your replay, Infernus goes down bad dies twice as often as he gets a kill ends the game literally last place in score. He spends the entire game in YOLO send it mode, almost never pulls it off again, and then you win the game. I guess this cheater just has a losing kink.
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Dude, you brought up skill (and do so again in this very post) and even critisized my actions like "you didnt buy HR" when I literally couldnt (which is very much visible in this video). Then you complain when I also refer to skill as an answer to your weird accusations. Are you just trolling? But I play shooters since Quake 2, so yes I do have experience in them.
I know what natural aim with sways and slight inaccuracies looks like, and what is shown in this video certainly isnt it. This holds especially true for players which - as you noted - arent really good in almost all other areas in the game. Like this guy is bad and loses the game, but sure enough he knows how to perfectly burst down players for a first blood on wave 1 and even tracks me through the wall near the end of the clip (you can cross reference this using the replay).
I'm going to tell you a little secret: Some cheaters don't cheat all the way through. They use it at the beginning to gain an advantage and then switch it off so the other players dont report them. Some cheaters even lose games. Whether he lost the game or not is completely besides the point. As are most of your comments.
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bruh he is aiming at things before he sees them. This is such an obvious wallhack (at a minimum) it's not even funny
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another hacker (haze in this case, teleport hacking, this time really obvious after a while) who also played very badly otherwise and lost the game. The fact that players play badly or lose is - once again - proven to be completely irrelevant when it comes to hacking or not. And I'm honestly confused how an obvious example like this wasnttt kicked or frogged during the game. Im pretty sure my team and some of the enemies reported them.
another hacker (haze in this case, teleport hacking, this time really obvious after a while) who also played very badly otherwise and lost the game. The fact that players play badly or lose is - once again - proven to be completely irrelevant when it comes to hacking or not. And I'm honestly confused how an obvious example like this wasnttt kicked or frogged during the game. Im pretty sure my team and some of the enemies reported them.
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StaticSpark
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Watched halfway the infernus clip through thinking "eh, probably just replay mode making shots look sus" then watched in absolute astonishment as he with 0 shame smoothly tracked you through the wall lmao
Not going to flame you like some others in this post but I don't think he's cheating. He misses a lot of shots on the engagement by the pillar, and he's tracking you through sound cues. The prefire around the corner at the end was a little funny looking but if he was confident you were there then it makes sense for him to prefire it. Aimbot in this game is a lot more blatant because of how the bullets travel in this game.
He doesnt miss, this is replay desync. Look at my health bar and the damage numbers above my head. They pop up with every shot. The only times he missed in this game's laning phase when was when I was a bit further away an/or when I dodge, since his hack doesnt seem to compensate for bullet travel.
Like in the first burst it looks he misses 80% of his shots but my health bar goes from full to 40%. This doesnt make sense, right? He hits them all and tracks perfectly while being a bad player in all other aspects. I am playing this game for over 400 hours now, I am not one who throws around hackusations lightly. I know how players on my mmr behave, and he was definitely different. You dont just "go" on the enemy at wave 1 like that, hit every shot, follow him into the tower and track through walls. Hearing doesnt play into this, since hearing doesnt make you pinpoint the opponents position through walls.
maomao431787
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This is one of the more obvious cheating clip and people are still saying he ain't cheating lol.... You guys actually suck at recognizing cheater
deadlockplaytester
New member
he has a low FOV aimbot. its hard to tell in this clip due to the low tickrate of the replay. Here's another clip of a similar hack where you can clearly see the radius around his crosshair where the bullets magnet onto the enemies (yamoto through the wall). Notice how he doesn't move his crosshair but the bullets teleport onto where the enemy yamoto is. Also the yamoto was mostly silent and somehow pinged through a wall. Second clip is yamoto POV.
If you watch the rest of the replay, the aim locking is pretty similar to the clip the OP posted. It is difficult to tell as the aiming looks humanlike, but the bullets don't follow the crosshair and there are moments where you can tell there is some assistance
Match ID: 28664177
deadlockplaytester
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Have a look the clips I posted above
pinging yamato on the roof is 100% confirmation he's cheating, if it weren't already obvious
deadlockplaytester
New member
I's not 100%(more like 90% or smth), it's possible that she randomly showed up on Minimap. Maybe one of her team mates had vision of her up there, or somehow the game thought he had LOS as she was close to the sign. You can then ping by clicking on the Minimap
Then after seeing them and clicking on Minimap you could reasonably preaim up there.
But yeah it's pretty sus either way but I think the low FOV aim lock confirms it.
