Blue Items - Hero specific items/upgrades

[dimitrovuk]

Great idea.Maybe the “secret shop” can appear where we have the bull and bear statues.At minute 15 the statues become alive “super neutral creep”,that you have to kill and then you get access to secret shop .If the enemy team kills your “statue”,the secret shop still opens for your team ,but at minute 20.
Or the statue could become area that you need to take control of,like a Battleground flag in wow and then you get access to the shop .

Also with hero specific items,it’s another way for you to buff or nerf a hero

 

[bober murger]

Thanks.

I have an idea for item but idk how to make it into cool deadlock-like image
MnK item, 1250/3000$
Sharpened Claws
Mo has sharpened his claws with a new sharpening stone specially designed for him, and now every *light* melee attack procs bleeds for 4 seconds, and every Combo claw attack procs bleeds for 2 seconds (stacks, same scale and dmg as shiv bleed).

Got this as item idea from other post

 

[That dude who plays Deadlock]

I have an idea for item but idk how to make it into cool deadlock-like image
MnK item, 1250/3000$
Sharpened Claws
Mo has sharpened his claws with a new sharpening stone specially designed for him, and now every *light* melee attack procs bleeds for 4 seconds, and every Combo claw attack procs bleeds for 2 seconds (stacks, same scale and dmg as shiv bleed).

Got this as item idea from other postView attachment 39230

Most people use Deadmock, an item editor made by @Tryneus. HERE is the thread.

 

[Fred_]

Here's my ideas for a Yamato Item Pack. Most of these are not that interesting, but should be relatively decent.

 

[That dude who plays Deadlock]

Here's my ideas for a Yamato Item Pack. Most of these are not that interesting, but should be relatively decent.

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Here are some of my ideas for Yamato:

How far they will fly out can be controled with aiming the slash up or down. They also should have a pretty decent spread, and have high visibility.


Carpet bomber Yamato XD

 

[Fred_]

Haven't seen anyone do a Lash item Pack yet, so here are my suggestions for some items.

 

[That dude who plays Deadlock]

Haven't seen anyone do a Lash item Pack yet, so here are my suggestions for some items.

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I think Saving Slam being an alternative cast and having reduced CD(Like 50% less) when used that way will be good, othervise permanently giving up death slam doesn`t sound good. Imagine saving your team from a Dynamo(under unstoppable) ult.

Also the name "Lashback" sound awesome )

 

[Fred_]

I think Saving Slam being an alternative cast and having reduced CD(Like 50% less) when used that way will be good, othervise permanently giving up death slam doesn`t sound good. Imagine saving your team from a Dynamo(under unstoppable) ult.

Also the name "Lashback" sound awesome )

Oh yeah true, thinking about it, Saving Slam is definitely not as good as Death Slam so a CD reduction would be needed. Lashback is a reference to one of his quotes if you didn't know already.
I really like the idea of a more support oriented lash, especially one who supports through aggressive means

 

[That dude who plays Deadlock]

Oh yeah true, thinking about it, Saving Slam is definitely not as good as Death Slam so a CD reduction would be needed. Lashback is a reference to one of his quotes if you didn't know already.
I really like the idea of a more support oriented lash, especially one who supports through aggressive means

What do you think about this version of "Grapple Escape"?

Basically allows you to escape in sittuations where there are no units to grapple to in the direction that you want, also helps move arround the map in general. Might be too good for a T2, but it needs actuall testing to see.

I am really overdoing it with all the added alt casts. I wounder if we will see heroes with more than 4 skills in the future(like in dota), so that Blue items can add a separete skill.

 

[Fred_]

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What do you think about this version of "Grapple Escape"?

Basically allows you to escape in sittuations where there are no units to grapple to in the direction that you want, also helps move arround the map in general. Might be too good for a T2, but it needs actuall testing to see.

I am really overdoing it with all the added alt casts. I wounder if we will see heroes with more than 4 skills in the future(like in dota), so that Blue items can add a separete skill.

Ooh, I quite like that actually. Making Grapple usable on surfaces is a way better idea, though.
I think it's fine if the effect is only making Grapple usable on terrain, I think that's good enough.

 

[Fred_]

Here's my updated version of Saving Slam. I've put some thought into it and I think replacing Death Slam with this is not too bad. With the added 30% cooldown reduction you also have to consider the possibilities with this new ultimate ability. While it does not have any more damage potential, it provides so much support.

It can help people get out of team fights and also get into team fights. A lash with saving slam could soar above the skies, use Saving slam on his team and throw them all the way across the map towards some objective they have to take at high speeds, or he could use it to throw a team above some roof and right into an unsuspecting group of enemies. You can consider this new ultimate as potentially using rescue beam on 5 people at once.

I feel like adding Saving slam on top of death slam would make death slam too versatile and I think the sleuth of support and attack strategies you could pull off with this new ability are nothing to scoff at.


I repurposed your idea for the new grapple escape into a new item, I think just having grapple be able to hook onto surfaces is very strong and shouldn't be overlooked. I don't think it needs anything else added to it, additionally, the reason why this is a new item instead of replacing grapple escape, it because I think grapple escape still has some things that stone hook couldn't do.

Grapple escape would be good at chasing enemies and maybe escaping enemies too a bit (though I think stone hook does it better). Stone Hook would be more versatile and would be better for moving around the map quickly, both have their merits so that's why I think they should both be items (And both 1250 souls).


I'm also introducing two new item ideas, Anchor Slam and Elbow Bash.

Elbow Bash is a pretty simple item, lunging Lash forward when using Ground strike on the ground. I think this item would be pretty neat since it adds a bit more option to how Ground Strike is used. Ground Strike is usually more optimal when used at height, but with this item it gives ground Ground Strike ( Ground^2 Strike ) a bit more usefulness. The forward lunging would take enemies by surprise and would give Lash a bigger range of attack with the added benefit or extra mobility when not used for damaging purposes.

Anchor Slam is more of a random idea. The main idea was to have death slam offer a way to pin a single enemy more, which Anchor Slam would provide.

 

[That dude who plays Deadlock]

Here's my updated version of Saving Slam. I've put some thought into it and I think replacing Death Slam with this is not too bad. With the added 30% cooldown reduction you also have to consider the possibilities with this new ultimate ability. While it does not have any more damage potential, it provides so much support.

It can help people get out of team fights and also get into team fights. A lash with saving slam could soar above the skies, use Saving slam on his team and throw them all the way across the map towards some objective they have to take at high speeds, or he could use it to throw a team above some roof and right into an unsuspecting group of enemies. You can consider this new ultimate as potentially using rescue beam on 5 people at once.

I feel like adding Saving slam on top of death slam would make death slam too versatile and I think the sleuth of support and attack strategies you could pull off with this new ability are nothing to scoff at.
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I repurposed your idea for the new grapple escape into a new item, I think just having grapple be able to hook onto surfaces is very strong and shouldn't be overlooked. I don't think it needs anything else added to it, additionally, the reason why this is a new item instead of replacing grapple escape, it because I think grapple escape still has some things that stone hook couldn't do.

Grapple escape would be good at chasing enemies and maybe escaping enemies too a bit (though I think stone hook does it better). Stone Hook would be more versatile and would be better for moving around the map quickly, both have their merits so that's why I think they should both be items (And both 1250 souls).
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I'm also introducing two new item ideas, Anchor Slam and Elbow Bash.

Elbow Bash is a pretty simple item, lunging Lash forward when using Ground strike on the ground. I think this item would be pretty neat since it adds a bit more option to how Ground Strike is used. Ground Strike is usually more optimal when used at height, but with this item it gives ground Ground Strike ( Ground^2 Strike ) a bit more usefulness. The forward lunging would take enemies by surprise and would give Lash a bigger range of attack with the added benefit or extra mobility when not used for damaging purposes.

Anchor Slam is more of a random idea. The main idea was to have death slam offer a way to pin a single enemy more, which Anchor Slam would provide.

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I think that "Stone hook" needs a CD. My version allows you to perform a terrain grapple only every 25s, this will allow lash to become spiderman(even more than he is now). It is basically a charged Majestic Leap(now that i think about it my item is also too OP)

 

[reythepastel]

Randomly had this idea for a Warden blue item last night and had to make it. Im still unsure if this is even a good idea but I had to throw it out here for discussion


(Also these stats are assuming ult is maxed, in functionality it would reflect the current level of the ult. E.g. it would only be +6% resists before t3 ult)

 

[Fred_]

Randomly had this idea for a Warden blue item last night and had to make it. Im still unsure if this is even a good idea but I had to throw it out here for discussion
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(Also these stats are assuming ult is maxed, in functionality it would reflect the current level of the ult. E.g. it would only be +6% resists before t3 ult)

I'm not sure if this is really strong or not. Assuming this actually makes the ability passive (As in you can't activate it yourself), it would definitely nerf Warden's damage potential in a fight. Though, I guess a weaker but passive ult is a neat tradeoff

 

[That dude who plays Deadlock]

I'm not sure if this is really strong or not. Assuming this actually makes the ability passive (As in you can't activate it yourself), it would definitely nerf Warden's damage potential in a fight. Though, I guess a weaker but passive ult is a neat tradeoff

It basically trades damage in a fight for faster farming and better sustain(if you got attacked and can`t cast "Last Stand", this atleast gives you some resists and heal). Could be good with spirit lifesteal build. I think it needs a range reduction though.

 

[Fred_]

It basically trades damage in a fight for faster farming and better sustain(if you got attacked and can`t cast "Last Stand", this atleast gives you some resists and heal). Could be good with spirit lifesteal build. I think it needs a range reduction though.

Yes it's pretty good.
But the "Can't cast Last Stand" part is pretty funny to me cause Last Stand is the most uncancellable ability ever, it's ridiculous.

 

[That dude who plays Deadlock]

Yes it's pretty good.
But the "Can't cast Last Stand" part is pretty funny to me cause Last Stand is the most uncancellable ability ever, it's ridiculous.

By can`t cast i mean like being in a Mo&Krill ult. If you get jumped and immediatelly stunned, this gives you some survivability.

 

[reythepastel]

It basically trades damage in a fight for faster farming and better sustain(if you got attacked and can`t cast "Last Stand", this atleast gives you some resists and heal). Could be good with spirit lifesteal build. I think it needs a range reduction though.

Hmm yea probably could trade off a range reduction for a bit higher percent of the dps

 

[That dude who plays Deadlock]

Ivy pack:

"Vine tug" works like old Rescue Beam sling shoting.
"Terror From Above" shoots like Mo&Krill gun and applies all effect that a normal gun would, basically turns Ivy into a flying turret.
"Rooting Snare" also works on the target you are connected to(they have a different buildup depending on their gun).

 

[s.secret.top]

Decided to do a few for Pocket.

Thin frame is just an early item for gun pocket - super good at around 10-25 minutes, where the bullet damage is low. To maximize the damage buff this item provides Pocket has to use all their abilities, leaving them without spell options. Cloak T5 already provides +7 bullet damage, so with this item gun pocket might actually be viable in midgame

Improved barrage is just another stack of %amp. pretty good. Maybe it should be 1250 souls instead of 500

Uncozy Satchel makes Pocket 3rd ability lose much of it's defensive capability, but doubles it's damage. There still is 0.5s escape duration left, so if pocket is **really** good, they could still dodge some burst damage, it just would be a lot harder. Also leaving some time makes improved duration still work

Leathal Infection is super good. Instead of dealing 18-23% of enemies initial health, Infection now deals 10%-15% initial health damage **after** the poison expires, basically turning it into an execute ability. It does cut it's %damage, but it's still would be very very powerful. Also - since the enemy could now predict when the damamge will be dealt, they could now dodge it. E-shift, ivy' stone form, Dynamo warp etc. A fair trade-off I think