you should be able to parry shiv ult

[Stevemain.1101]

Title pretty much. I feel like you should be able to parry shiv ult as if it was a melee. When parried, it should not only stun shiv, but knock him away about the distance of a default seven lightning ball. You should still get half the amount of damage his ult would have done. maybe make it so his ult will also go on a 15 second cooldown after a successful parry?

 

[gibnewitems]

anything other than a heavy melee being stunned by parry shouldn't even be a thing.

 

[flynnmikey07]

anything other than a heavy melee being stunned by parry shouldn't even be a thing.

Not even viscous goo fist?

 

[gooboostye]

Shiv ult would never hit then, it's too easy to see it coming when you're low and he's around

 

[gibnewitems]

Not even viscous goo fist?

100% a stupid icefraud change. just get rid of it proccing melee effects and give it actual spirit scalings.

 

[nathanieljbrill]

100% a stupid icefraud change. just get rid of it proccing melee effects and give it actual spirit scalings.

Terrible take. It adds build variety and interactive ness.

 

[Gabeyboy321]

Shiv ult with parry would be nice, although I think a knock-back might be a bit much, maybe just a half damage and a stun on the shiv that makes it easier to escape, but make him not take more damage

 

[gibnewitems]

Terrible take. It adds build variety and interactive ness.

more like restricts item design for melee since they have to account for a lane-wide poke being able to proc their items.

 

[flynnmikey07]

more like restricts item design for melee since they have to account for a lane-wide poke being able to proc their items.

imo, if you're going that far, the melee system in general should just be reworked entirely. The only real strategy with it is to simply "guess" when the enemy will use it to counter parry. Further, it feel unreliable to use and non-precise.

 

[Mr.Mindish]

You can technically parry it with Ethereal Shift.
I do think Shiv's ult is slightly overtuned, but being able to counter the ult with a parry that punishes the Shiv would butcher the move, especially since every character would be able to do it for free (no items required) and Shiv's ult is loud and reactable.

 

[technicalwaffle]

more like restricts item design for melee since they have to account for a lane-wide poke being able to proc their items.

It only interacts with the particularly game warping heavy melee effects at T3 so it really would never be a problem in the early game or laning phase when these kinds of interactions would cause the most balance issues.