The Paradox Carbine does not take the dynamic buffs of Spiritism

Midnull

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In testing I noticed that when activating say Spirit Overflow the extra spiritualism does not enhance the shot from the carbine.

But why would it? The spiritualism boost applies to all other abilities but not to the one it was taken for? That's weird.

Also with the other sources of additional spiritual power:
Diviner's Kevlar
Surge of Power
Shadow Weave
Infuser
Ammo Scavenger
Casting Rune


Maybe I just don't understand how the Carbine and its Spiritism multiplier works, if the extra damage is calculated only from the static indicator of Spiritic Power then it should be explicitly stated in the description of the ability, although such mechanics would be extremely strange because this is the only ability in my memory that works this way.

I also want to understand, if it is considered by the game for enhanced but still shot from our weapons (because for this you need to have at least 1 bullet in the magazine), then why on it so strange work so many other amplifiers? For example, Lucky Shot it imposes a slowdown but no additional damage. Or Point Blank, which enhances the shot but does not apply slowdown. Okay I can understand why it doesn't work with Headhunter or Ricoshet (that would be too strong) but why it doesn't work with Slowing Bullets? This is a topic for a separate thread (which already exists and has no comments) because there are many such interactions.

I realize that the game is in development and I hope that the developers will correct such inaccuracies in mechanics by release and we can all enjoy the game by understanding the interactions between characters, their abilities and items.
 
Do note the most important part of the skill "The damage dealt is an amplification of your current weapon damage." That is, it doesn't scale with spirit power but weapon % so having 10 or 100 spirit will only affect bonus speed part of that skill.

The part about gun items interaction is indeed weird because carbine uses 1 bullet even though it morphs dmg into spirit. Though lucky shot proc chance is only 35% per shot which makes it extremely hard to test with carbine.
 
Do note the most important part of the skill "The damage dealt is an amplification of your current weapon damage." That is, it doesn't scale with spirit power but weapon % so having 10 or 100 spirit will only affect bonus speed part of that skill.

The part about gun items interaction is indeed weird because carbine uses 1 bullet even though it morphs dmg into spirit. Though lucky shot proc chance is only 35% per shot which makes it extremely hard to test with carbine.

Oh you don`t remember ablility description.
I'll remind you.
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This amplification is listed as “Damage Amp” in the ability parameters. If you have read the description of this ability it should be clear.
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Please double-check your facts before pointing out someone else's mistake (much less advertising your broadcasts).
 
Bruh, you see that star on top of bonus speed square? That's spirit scaling for this ability's part, you can see exact scaling values on any abilities by pressing alt. If there's no star and value it doesn't scale with spirit power.

Damage amp for this ability is literally what it says, your gun damage will be amped by this amount and turned into spirit damage as fire icon indicates. To put it simple if your bullet damage is 5 as it says under amp then it will be amped by 135% at max lvl giving you 11,75 spirit dmg, turning into 12,5 on headshots.

You can test it in sandbox in few seconds instead of accusing people of being wrong when description literally tells you that in clear English, better yet you pasted the exact part that tells you this. Just remember to buy spirit items without weapon damage buff for clear result.

Now because it is spirit damage after morphing it will still trigger Improved Burst and Mystic Reverb so at least these are good to buy for her.
 
Paradox enjoyer here. Spirit power ONLY affects your move speed. If you want to boost Kinetic Carbine damage, you need items that increase your weapon damage.
 
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