Spirit equivalent to return fire and metal skin

[thesyndrome]

If you're going to continue gutting gun damage because of all the people who play dynamo whining that their 1 doesn't 1-shot everyone and ONLY does 75% of their health BY PRESSING A SINGLE BUTTON WITHOUT NEEDING TO AIM then we need an item to counter these heroes, they have PLENTY of gun counter items but continued to bitch and moan about gun heroes (whilst not buying these items) until you kept nerfing them, but the only thing you can buy to truly counter spirit is resilience, and it's not enough, plus it has no offensive function like return fire does

 

[Dr.Fox]

there is counter spell, spellbreaker and silence wave which are good counters already
silencer also exist but sucks

 

[gibnewitems]

If you're going to continue gutting gun damage because of all the people who play dynamo whining that their 1 doesn't 1-shot everyone and ONLY does 75% of their health BY PRESSING A SINGLE BUTTON WITHOUT NEEDING TO AIM then we need an item to counter these heroes, they have PLENTY of gun counter items but continued to bitch and moan about gun heroes (whilst not buying these items) until you kept nerfing them, but the only thing you can buy to truly counter spirit is resilience, and it's not enough, plus it has no offensive function like return fire does

A 100% spirit counterpart for these two items (metal skin and return fire) just wouldn't work because spirit has a lot more downtime compared to gun builds, especially later on when those gun builds can buy a cheap item that allow them to entirely circumvent what little downtime they have. Being able to rush Spirit Skin or Return Spirit would trivialize positioning for gun builds, especially early on where spirit builds are supposed to shine.

 

[PumBa №2]

I mean, counterspell exists. It is basically a spirit metal skin

 

[gibnewitems]

I mean, counterspell exists. It is basically a spirit metal skin

Metal skin is four times the duration of Counterspell, while also allowing you to move and attack freely.

 

[PumBa №2]

Metal skin is four times the duration of Counterspell, while also allowing you to move and attack freely.

As you mentioned(not rly mentioned bit kinda talked about it), most of spirit damage is in bursts. So it is a Metal Skin in a "spiritual" sense, not literally.