luckydeath973
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I am not sure if it's intended, but Shiv's ultimate passive only increase the damage of certain items, while other damage amps like Sinclair or Geist work on almost all items.
( testing all done on the standard testing dummy )
On a dummy, Toxic bullets deals about 37-38 damage per tick, and Decay deals 80-79..ect damage per tick.
Shiv's damage increase on his ultimate works on Decay, bumping it up to 94-91..ect damage per tick. But it does not work with Toxic bullets.
After further testing, Capacitor's active, Lightning scroll ( 150 damage after ult ) Scourge and Spirit burn's proc do not get a damage amp increase from Shiv's passive.
Shiv's ultimate passive does increase the damage of Alchemical fire, Mystic Shot, Arctic blast and Spirit Snatch.
Geist's Malice damage amp does work on Decay, Toxic bullets, Capacitor, Lightning scroll, Scourge, Spirit burn.
Sinclair's rabbit hex damage amp does work on all the same items.
For certain items like Focus Lens, Mystic Reverb, Luckyshot, it would make no sense for the damage to "double dip" by increasing both the initial source and the item proc' but for others like Toxic bullets or Scourge it feels very inconsistent that this separate instance of damage isn't increased while Decay is.
If the balance team deems the damage increase on items to be too strong or too hard to balance, I think making all items unaffected by his ultimate a smarter and more consistent choice. Bump the numbers ( 28% damage amp increase ) slightly even if that means Shiv is then more inclined to play around his gun and limited abilities.
( testing all done on the standard testing dummy )
On a dummy, Toxic bullets deals about 37-38 damage per tick, and Decay deals 80-79..ect damage per tick.
Shiv's damage increase on his ultimate works on Decay, bumping it up to 94-91..ect damage per tick. But it does not work with Toxic bullets.
After further testing, Capacitor's active, Lightning scroll ( 150 damage after ult ) Scourge and Spirit burn's proc do not get a damage amp increase from Shiv's passive.
Shiv's ultimate passive does increase the damage of Alchemical fire, Mystic Shot, Arctic blast and Spirit Snatch.
Geist's Malice damage amp does work on Decay, Toxic bullets, Capacitor, Lightning scroll, Scourge, Spirit burn.
Sinclair's rabbit hex damage amp does work on all the same items.
For certain items like Focus Lens, Mystic Reverb, Luckyshot, it would make no sense for the damage to "double dip" by increasing both the initial source and the item proc' but for others like Toxic bullets or Scourge it feels very inconsistent that this separate instance of damage isn't increased while Decay is.
If the balance team deems the damage increase on items to be too strong or too hard to balance, I think making all items unaffected by his ultimate a smarter and more consistent choice. Bump the numbers ( 28% damage amp increase ) slightly even if that means Shiv is then more inclined to play around his gun and limited abilities.
