Rankings are currently bugged. There's no other explanation

[buttflapper]

I'm a relatively new player but I have about a hundred hours into the game, and I have been initiate the entire time. No matter how well I perform or what I do, I have never been ranked up before. I mean sure maybe I am really bad at the game because I'm new, but still it doesn't make sense. You're telling me there's no other ranks above initiate that I would fit into after playing for a hundred hours?

Additionally, about half of the games that I get into are a complete curb stomp from the enemy team. For example, I get matches where someone on the enemy team has 15 kills another person has 25 kills, and our entire team is new, people who say they just return so they don't even know how to use the hero that they are playing and we end up getting three kills combined across the entire team....


It's also admittedly a nightmare for myself to try and face other opponents, because how am I supposed to carry the lane every single time? Every single game I have to 1v2, It feels like, Because my partner runs in and nearly dies or does die, and we are getting mopped the entire time, the only one really holding their ground is me and playing strategically is me. So it's always an unfair fight, it feels like. I don't really know how to get around that, in order to get up into another rank, because if I'm always having to carry 1-3 other people the entire match, of course we're going to lose.

 

[jporter917]

I'm a relatively new player but I have about a hundred hours into the game, and I have been initiate the entire time. No matter how well I perform or what I do, I have never been ranked up before. I mean sure maybe I am really bad at the game because I'm new, but still it doesn't make sense. You're telling me there's no other ranks above initiate that I would fit into after playing for a hundred hours?

Additionally, about half of the games that I get into are a complete curb stomp from the enemy team. For example, I get matches where someone on the enemy team has 15 kills another person has 25 kills, and our entire team is new, people who say they just return so they don't even know how to use the hero that they are playing and we end up getting three kills combined across the entire team....


It's also admittedly a nightmare for myself to try and face other opponents, because how am I supposed to carry the lane every single time? Every single game I have to 1v2, It feels like, Because my partner runs in and nearly dies or does die, and we are getting mopped the entire time, the only one really holding their ground is me and playing strategically is me. So it's always an unfair fight, it feels like. I don't really know how to get around that, in order to get up into another rank, because if I'm always having to carry 1-3 other people the entire match, of course we're going to lose.

Low player population, Smurfs and hackers. Steam is free, game is free, invites are too easy to come back--this is no checking mechanism for new accounts, even if they share the same hardware ID, ISP IP, etc. as known cheaters, high ranking accounts, griefers, etc.

Get banned for queue dodging or leaving a game? Switch to a different steam account. Rank too high and you don't want to try hard? Switch to a different steam account. Bored and want to ruin other people's fun? Switch to a different steam account. Already have a confirmed VAC Ban? Log into the game and play, get another one? Switch to a different steam account.

 

[buttflapper]

Low player population, Smurfs and hackers. Steam is free, game is free, invites are too easy to come back--this is no checking mechanism for new accounts, even if they share the same hardware ID, ISP IP, etc. as known cheaters, high ranking accounts, griefers, etc.

Get banned for queue dodging or leaving a game? Switch to a different steam account. Rank too high and you don't want to try hard? Switch to a different steam account. Bored and want to ruin other people's fun? Switch to a different steam account. Already have a confirmed VAC Ban? Log into the game and play, get another one? Switch to a different steam account.

Well for smurfing specifically, it doesn't help that there's no placement match like there is in starcraft and other competitive games. Your rank is this arbitrarily determined as being at the bottom. Also, if you're a new player, there seems to be no reward system whatsoever. If I do well and let's say a handful of matches or I win a handful of matches through working with my team, what's the point? I won't go up to initiate 2. I've already seen that myself. No matter how many matches I win, there will never be a rank up for me. I would need to literally be hypercarried or always play with a team of players which I don't always have, so I end up relying on matchmaking to find other people to play with.

 

[jporter917]

Well for smurfing specifically, it doesn't help that there's no placement match like there is in starcraft and other competitive games. Your rank is this arbitrarily determined as being at the bottom. Also, if you're a new player, there seems to be no reward system whatsoever. If I do well and let's say a handful of matches or I win a handful of matches through working with my team, what's the point? I won't go up to initiate 2. I've already seen that myself. No matter how many matches I win, there will never be a rank up for me. I would need to literally be hypercarried or always play with a team of players which I don't always have, so I end up relying on matchmaking to find other people to play with.

Most players in higher ranks were carried or got that way from teams. So, even they shouldn't be there up there. Agree we need a placement system.

 

[catowar]

Most players in higher ranks were carried or got that way from teams. So, even they shouldn't be there up there. Agree we need a placement system.

Honestly think its something there working on, The rank system we have now seems thrown together to make the esports "pros" that jumped on early happy.

Also if they just added a "unranked" and "ranked" system again, thats going to fix a ton of problems (they might be holding on to that until open beta thanks to player numbers needed)

 

[buttflapper]

Honestly think its something there working on, The rank system we have now seems thrown together to make the esports "pros" that jumped on early happy.

Also if they just added a "unranked" and "ranked" system again, thats going to fix a ton of problems (they might be holding on to that until open beta thanks to player numbers needed)

I have my doubts they're listening to feedback, I've provided feedback several times. The ranking system is literally and figuratively geared towards being anti-new player. Who would even want to play a game like that where the only players are pros and smurfs?

 

[jporter917]

Honestly think its something there working on, The rank system we have now seems thrown together to make the esports "pros" that jumped on early happy.

Also if they just added a "unranked" and "ranked" system again, thats going to fix a ton of problems (they might be holding on to that until open beta thanks to player numbers needed)

It seems that, right now, they might be testing hero lane match ups. The heroes I play, when I get them, are always in the same lane. None of the heroes I play have been placed into the new Warehouse/Canal Lane in 10+ games.

I would image they are testing hero v hero match ups for balancing, team comp, and to give each Hero some sort of role. I.E Frontline, Support, DPS, etc. I have the feeling that those roles/tags will probably not be visible in game. Instead, they will use the 3 keywords we have right now from the new update.

Either way it is a step in the right direction.