Nerf Haze’s ultimate.

kay44

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Being able to use items while she’s ulting is a war crime. She can use Unstoppable before ulting and then, after she’s already in her ult, use Phantom Strike right in your face — and that’s honestly ridiculous. Using items before ulting is fine, but using them during the ult is just bullshit.
 
This would probably be better off in the private hero gameplay section of the forums.

Either way, I do have my own thoughts. I feel like Haze's ultimate is strong, but it is an ultimate that puts her at a severe disadvantage if positioned incorrectly. However, if a Haze is building into her ult by purchasing phantom strike or other mobility items, then their ult should be strong by extension. Same with a Haze building into fixation with ricochet. If you are being decimated by a hyper-mobile ulting Haze with warp stone or phantom strike, buy metal skin and get out of range or behind cover.

It's the same case as maybe Dynamo ult for example. He can pop unstoppable, use warp stone and ult an entire team. Should he be nerfed for building into his ult by sacrificing his networth for his ult rather than his stomp? I do not think so.
 
This would probably be better off in the private hero gameplay section of the forums.

Either way, I do have my own thoughts. I feel like Haze's ultimate is strong, but it is an ultimate that puts her at a severe disadvantage if positioned incorrectly. However, if a Haze is building into her ult by purchasing phantom strike or other mobility items, then their ult should be strong by extension. Same with a Haze building into fixation with ricochet. If you are being decimated by a hyper-mobile ulting Haze with warp stone or phantom strike, buy metal skin and get out of range or behind cover.

It's the same case as maybe Dynamo ult for example. He can pop unstoppable, use warp stone and ult an entire team. Should he be nerfed for building into his ult by sacrificing his networth for his ult rather than his stomp? I do not think so.
You're being reckless, because everything depends on where the fight is happening. The fight could be on the bridge in the blue zone, you'll simply die and there won't be any counterplay you can make.
 
You're being reckless, because everything depends on where the fight is happening. The fight could be on the bridge in the blue zone, you'll simply die and there won't be any counterplay you can make.
Your counter play is counter buying, or just have better positioning. At the end of the day, it’s a moba. If there is a rampaging Haze, buy disarming hex. If it’s an Ult unstoppable Haze, buy metal skin and run away, as I said in my earlier post. If you have a stun in your kit, stun Haze out of her ult if she doesn’t have unstoppable or it has expired. If none of those works, maybe consider warp stone to get away quicker or even get inhibitor if you are playing an M1 carry to make her damage piss poor. Playing Lash? Ult her whilst she is mid-ult to guarantee a pick on her or anyone else who might try to capitalize on it. Or just buy curse and coordinate with your team.

Even better, pay attention to the Haze. If you see her about to ult, dash away so you aren’t caught in it. She isn’t a frontliner, so if she suddenly shows up in the middle of your team, you know she’s about to ult.

There’s a million things you can do to counter a Haze ult. Sure, these things take time to learn, but that is a part of this game’s learning curve.
 
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