Matchmaking is completely unbalanced and opaque

[oebelysk]

I previously had a 57% winrate overall and my games were quite balanced. Fun games and everyone tried, comebacks were had, etc. After these latest patches I am continuously being given completely unwinnable games with toxic teammates who seem to be purposefully throwing games. I'll block out the names for respect, as I am sure many of them are new players, but this is still ridiculous after having lost 7 games in a row due to people being toxic and feeding

3 people who walk down lane and die all game, two go 1/10 and another goes 3/10

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exact same thing, except even worse this time. 1/4, 0/9, 1/5, 0/8, 0/8

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and again...

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plus 4 more times. then they of course say "gg" and "/ff" early, and of course after saying to just stop dying and focus on winning i am met with the classic

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this guy said he was a new player so I ask him to watch guides instead of throwing the game

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what am I doing wrong? every game I get into is completely toxic now and it's increasingly difficult not to just abandon, but I know that people are being permanently banned for that behavior so I just have to wait until we lose while my team "fuck you" to each other in voicechat... really hoping they fix this mmr system somehow or at least queue newer players together

 

[ns_hera]

I don't think you're necessarily doing anything wrong. You're right that the ranking system is opaque because all that we have to determine our progress is win rate percent. All of the tracking sites that displayed some time of ELO got killed off by Valve rate limiting their API. They don't want players reading into stats and doing crazy meta game stuff yet which is understandable.

There probably isn't much going on behind the scenes to determine how a lobby is being created. I think that it's just some type of "best connection" based match making. I have around 250 games and I still get players on my team that go 1-15. Players who are clearly brand new players that have no idea how to play yet. How does it make sense that a brand new player is put on the same team as someone with over 200 games? I remember around game 220 I had to explain to someone what a Soul Urn was. Maybe if time layering was added matchmaking would be better who knows.

I doubt the sentiment that they try to pair you with someone similar in MMR because I rarely feel like I get smashed in lane. I lose my lane to a better player maybe 1/10 games. To your point, even in the games where I win my lane as soon as I open scoreboard and look at minimap two gaurdians are gone and three teammates are 0/3/0. I then look at the scoreboard at the end of the game and see my counterpart on the other team getting carried even though they are 2/6/12 or something and wonder why they won but I didn't.

I'd like to think that a ranked game mode would make these issues better but having played Dota 2 I know that this is naive. You still see the same distribution of player stats in every game even in ranked and are guaranteed at least one feeder. It's just how MOBAs/team games are. If you're in a game with lots of feeders like that only thing you can do is focus on your own performance and not put too much mental energy into that match.

 

[jeisot5]

Agree with ns_hera, the matchmaking is broken and if you even suggest new players to play back and defensive, try to learn vs bots or watch some guides you get called toxic at minimum and a huge amount of insults I dont even wanna repeat...

Game has several Issues from the matchmaking to not forcing new ppl to learn vs bots or in a queue just for new guys(like lol does), not having a diferent region for russians(due to their culture) like a lot of games do(even tarkov) also aggravates the issue since most of the times they're the culprits but w/e, ppl will call me racist for pointing the issue im pretty sure.

Most of the times they're not even new players just die once or twice and say fck it and go into full inting to make the game last less and then play another since I match vs or with them in the next game and they play perfectly fine and dont feed even with same hero.. Way too many games with guys dying 8-10 times before even minute 15 while having 0 kills and 1 assist or not even that, you say something and youre the "bad guy" and get flamed rlly hard.