cannolisquid
New member
Silence doesn't take someone out of an ult....... They can still do it..... They just have to use the ult FIRST before pickup.......
Ivy Seven combo
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PapaTraffy
Member
OH MY GOD, they were not built for your damage at all. Absolutely shredded lmao
Lady Briar
Active member
THIS ^^^
I play a lot of Ivy, and in one game our Seven asked me to do this combo. I did. Haze instantly slept my ass. ROFL. Like... yeah, its powerful if you can pull it off in the right situation at the right time, but it is SO counterable that it HURTS. The fact that people think it needs a nerf are showing their ignorance of the game and its mechanics. Ivy's ult is stopped by:
Abram's Ult
Bebop Uppercut AND his Pull
Dynamo Kinetic Pulse and his Ult
Grey Talon Ult
Haze Sleep Dagger
Infernus Ult
Lash Ult
McGinnis' upgraded Spectral Wall
Mo and Krill Ult
Warden Binding Word
Wraith Telekinesis
Plus a bunch of items.
But no, please, tell me more how OP and uncounterable it is...
acidente
Active member
This actually is not a big deal. I do ult sometimes to farm some strong camps as beebop, so I think this is just smart usage of the ult, maybe? I'm not sure. But it is just to show to people that this ult is really strong utility.
acidente
Active member
I mean most of this skills it needs either or both of two things: Range and the enemy being on ground (e.g. abbram ult, bebop uppercut, kinect pulse and ult from dynamo, infernus ult, mo krill ult). Which in fact is exactly what ivy's ult does, she can fly really high! So yeah... You can counter, that's not the issue here to me. The issue is the fact that it is too strong...THIS ^^^
I play a lot of Ivy, and in one game our Seven asked me to do this combo. I did. Haze instantly slept my ass. ROFL. Like... yeah, its powerful if you can pull it off in the right situation at the right time, but it is SO counterable that it HURTS. The fact that people think it needs a nerf are showing their ignorance of the game and its mechanics. Ivy's ult is stopped by:
Abram's Ult
Bebop Uppercut AND his Pull
Dynamo Kinetic Pulse and his Ult
Grey Talon Ult
Haze Sleep Dagger
Infernus Ult
Lash Ult
McGinnis' upgraded Spectral Wall
Mo and Krill Ult
Warden Binding Word
Wraith Telekinesis
Plus a bunch of items.
But no, please, tell me more how OP and uncounterable it is...
ben1roberts
New member
It has been removed you can stop crying now
acidente
Active member
Uhh... No, it wasn't?
This is something new players doesn't understand but silencing does not stops channeling abilities.
It does helps with haze combo tho, and with the fact that you HAVE to ult before, so team have a heads up to prepare for the incoming seven ult.
Surprised the Curse item hasn't been brought up yet. Yes, it's T4 so it's a bit hard to rush it, but that *will* shut off Seven's ult and is instant. Only challenge would be to actually get close enough since Ivy is lifting him, but there are many options between characters, map usage, and itemization to achieve vertical movement.
Ignie
New member
Curse is another good alternative to seven but with flying it made it hard to get in range
KanjoBazooie
New member
It's a skill issue, half the cast counters this as well as a bunch of items too. But I do not expect my teams that never look at the map or ult track to know that 
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dafinch
Member
90% of the 'counters' being ultimates, the rest, items that have a minimum distance and projectile travel time/built in delay. games #1 flaw is lack of coordination. and games being 4/2 tank/dps vs 1/5 tank/dps. i guess if you get into a game with abrams, geist, vindicta, m&k, viscous and mcginnis vs haze, ivy, seven, X, y, z, the solution must be just lose. cause aint no way that game will be salvaged. either that or pray M&K can ult them in time.It's a skill issue, half the cast counters this as well as a bunch of items too. But I do not expect my teams that never look at the map or ult track to know that
Only solution i see is pick phases where you pick from your list of whitelisted heroes pre game and lock in, cause dying in an eye blink while curse flies after/knockdown winds up, and is outsped, by ivy and co just aint it.
Lady Briar
Active member
Oh no. Needing an ult to counter an ult! The... the horror! Who ever heard of such a thing!
dafinch
Member
Ult for Ult is not an issue. The issue is the lack of an interrupt that can actually catch the mach speed ivy + passenger. By the time you're in range to use those items, your health is half gone. Losing 2 flex slots to knockdown/curse & ethereal shift ain't it. Talon using bird to counter vaporizes provided he isn't near the action. Mo n krill cant jump that much (EDIT: Disarm doesnt stop haze from doing the breakdance of her life, nvm). Bebop just repositions enemies, not interrupt them so hook/melee isn't an actual counter. Mcginnis doesn't build walls that high. Abrams has to aim for a sky target with a ground targeter, lol, lmao even.
Ivy? Just use Left Click, move erratically, and hug the sky-box. Oh wait nvm she saw you coming and popped Unstoppable. Mid flight. So much for those 2 items to try and stop the combo.¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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