Cheater Infernus in Oracle/Phantom Ranked

babautz

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I dont think the rest of my team believed me because he was bad enough that he still lost the lane after he killed me initially. However the replay makes it pretty obvious. Just check match 27670206 laning phase of infernus if you want to see for yourself. Anyway, is there anything else I can do speed up the process of banning him. Seeing as he has at least 50 matches in order to play ranked I really think the cheat detection is not fast enough.
 
What in this clip makes you think he was cheating? I see him stand still while you ignore him and he stacks his DoT on you for free, then you react way late.

Full hp vs 1-hit, you calmly walk to shop where the ganking area is. You don't buy HR and hide or leave to go heal or anything. You just kinda come back out the front with no hp.

Looking for the kill he initially goes the wrong way if he was walling (following where you went), taking *some tower damage he can afford (has creeps too) because you didn't shoot him back. Luckily he finds you while you have no angular velocity and are neatly standing in the middle of a doorway like a paper range target.
 
He barely aims yet hits every shot, looks suspicious.
Kinda looks like whatever tools he is using is keeping his aim at the opponent even without really seeing the opponent.
Or whatever hardware tool he is using is drawing an overlay of the targets location.
The whole behaviour is unnatural, very easy to spot a cheater this way. They are overly aggressive, hunting for frags instead of souls in the laning phase.

Often used tactic by cheaters is this:
- use cheats to quickly get upper hand in the lanes first 5 minutes
- turn off cheats to not attract unwanted attention

The lane advantage you get with cheats in first 5 minutes can lead to a snowball effect. Often the cheaters are the super aggressive ones, because they have no fear with cheats on. If you play super defensive against them, often you can even beat them in terms of soul score because cheaters are low IQ and have no capability to think in long term.
 
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What in this clip makes you think he was cheating? I see him stand still while you ignore him and he stacks his DoT on you for free, then you react way late.

Full hp vs 1-hit, you calmly walk to shop where the ganking area is. You don't buy HR and hide or leave to go heal or anything. You just kinda come back out the front with no hp.

Looking for the kill he initially goes the wrong way if he was walling (following where you went), taking *some tower damage he can afford (has creeps too) because you didn't shoot him back. Luckily he finds you while you have no angular velocity and are neatly standing in the middle of a doorway like a paper range target.
Are you for real? His shots perfectly track the heads of me and the creeps nearby, even though the crosshair is nowhere near his target. This continues after this clip if you check the replay. Look how his shots (not his crosshair) pinpoint moving heads as soon as he sees them. He hits literally every shot.

Also this was the first wave, i had no money for HR and no stamina for dodges. And even if I had, me playing badly or not is completely besides the point. Look how his shots behave.

(And yes, i didnt react asap because I am not used to being laserbeamed for 90% of my hp at the first wave on my oracle/phantom mmr).

EDIT: Also I didnt even notice it, but on reviewing he perfectly tracks me through the wall near the end.
 
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Of course you would bring up rank as if it means something. It doesn't look like cheating, it looks like experience. Prefiring is real, he's prefiring vectors for low angular velocities. Have you done a lot of shooter game, vehicular combat games? That's a lot more relevant than your rank.

he matches your footwork, I would be on his screen that whole initial burst looked like a perfect track.

it DOES look like bad hitreg/bad network/lag/desynchronization in some capacity. Been gaming 30 years. Been every rank in so many games. Seen verified cheaters vs not in CS using match history (search for vac banned players). I don't see a toggle here.

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It literally looks 1:1 with this other thread you're claiming isn't cheating where aimed shots look like where there is a consistent offset in what's being displayed, but in the other guy's case you blame the replay system, which is exactly what it looks like here. Also I watched your replay, Infernus goes down bad dies twice as often as he gets a kill ends the game literally last place in score. He spends the entire game in YOLO send it mode, almost never pulls it off again, and then you win the game. I guess this cheater just has a losing kink.
 
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