BUG: Enemy Trooper Stuck in the Ground Stops Trooper Progress

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Match ID: 60739586
At 24:30 match time I uppercut Infernus into the troopers on the zipline dislodging one with enough force to causes it to get stuck in the REM tunnel below Broadway.

 

[roal]

Had the exact same bug happen to me in my game, me and some of my team members were trying to fix the problem and asked the enemy team to wait so we can figure out if we can fix it.

63974079

also as a nice bonus, this dude knowingly exploited the bug and then added me and messaged me this

 

[ReportingBugs]

Had the exact same bug happen to me in my game, me and some of my team members were trying to fix the problem and asked the enemy team to wait so we can figure out if we can fix it.

63974079

also as a nice bonus, this dude knowingly exploited the bug and then added me and messaged me this View attachment 88614

Interestingly, "LowTierAyatollah" is innocent! He is the Viscous FYI.


What happens is a minion fails to land, and instead, gets pushed through, noclipping and ends up inside the vents. This happens at 17:27. Pay close attention to where the accused is located - completely AWAY from the minion wave.

Next screenshot shows where the minion ended up.

It appears to float around 17:29.

Around 17:31, it proceeds to moonwalk backwards, before autonaving.


It paths to here and gets stuck. Almost as if it is trying to seek a minion, and the other minions are seeking to seek it. Problem is, this causes a clump up.

As shown above.

The minions proceed to run up and down the tunnels, trying to swing if in combat. Except - it's not hitting anything!

Auto killing minions in that space should solve this problem. It seems to disregard z-axis allocation, also not respecting LoS (Line of Sight).

Says who?


People are not entilted to fix a bug that happened in a game. Especially since it wasn't triggered by anyone. Check replay. Go to the camera room and insert the matchID you pasted - 63974079.

What you are suggesting however is an offense (though the request is not) - to falsely report. It isn't exactly bug exploiting when nothing could be done, and it is something no one has triggered. If someone has to win, then by that logic, one side is either bug abusing or not. That does not fit the definition people would regard as "exploiting". Exploiting implies intent.

I see you and the graves are acting awfully neurotic about the whole thing. Checking out LowTierAyatollah, especially considering he has a troll/offensive/provocative pfp and flame-like comments on their profile, he played on the neuroticism, and took credit for something he didn't do.

And just like that, you fell for the bait. Congratulations!

So yeah. Lesson learnt - do not act neurotic, do not ever feed the trolls.

 

[roal]

Interestingly, "LowTierAyatollah" is innocent! He is the Viscous FYI.
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What happens is a minion fails to land, and instead, gets pushed through, noclipping and ends up inside the vents. This happens at 17:27. Pay close attention to where the accused is located - completely AWAY from the minion wave.

Next screenshot shows where the minion ended up.
View attachment 88618
It appears to float around 17:29.
View attachment 88619
Around 17:31, it proceeds to moonwalk backwards, before autonaving.
View attachment 88620

It paths to here and gets stuck. Almost as if it is trying to seek a minion, and the other minions are seeking to seek it. Problem is, this causes a clump up.
View attachment 88623
As shown above.
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The minions proceed to run up and down the tunnels, trying to swing if in combat. Except - it's not hitting anything!

Auto killing minions in that space should solve this problem. It seems to disregard z-axis allocation, also not respecting LoS (Line of Sight).
View attachment 88625
Says who?

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People are not entilted to fix a bug that happened in a game. Especially since it wasn't triggered by anyone. Check replay. Go to the camera room and insert the matchID you pasted - 63974079.
View attachment 88627

I see you and the graves are acting awfully neurotic about the whole thing. Checking out LowTierAyatollah, especially considering he has a troll/offensive/provocative pfp and flame-like comments on their profile, he played on the neuroticism, and took credit for something he didn't do.
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And just like that, you fell for the bait. Congratulations!

So yeah. Lesson learnt - do not act neurotic, do not ever feed the trolls.

Me and graves were trying to fix the problem so we could push blue, otherwise our troopers wont help and we will just face tank the barracks damage, which is a bad idea unless we have our full builds and much higher level. If you watch the replay i asked doorman and victor to both help since they might be able to reach the minion undergound with their bell or the aoe damage, but when i asked they completely ignored me, basically allowing blue to be fucked. That is why I said doorman and victor are both assholes since they could indeed see my messages asking for help but they didnt.

And viscious is just wrong here, it is game breaking since blue is basically impossible to push until late game when we are tankier, and despite us trying to figure out how to it so they don't have this unfair advantage, we were ignored by our own team and the enemy team. I understand the enemy team ignoring, but my own team ignoring something that gives us a big disadvantage is stupid. We were just lucky we already got the walker so low that we didn't need the trooper.

You can say I fed the troll. I don't really care if this guy strokes his ego about me trying to figure out how to not have my game ruined by this bug for future reference since I see other posts about this bug from over 3 weeks ago. I'd rather know how to counter this bug since it might take more time before they actually address this issue. It is possible that this bug could happen at an even worse area if the enemy trooper falls into the rem tunnel on your side of the lane, although that didn't happen here obviously.

I mostly included his message in the post in the off chance some action was taken against him for being informed about the bug giving their side an advantage. Obviously its unlikely to happen, but I'd find it funny if it did.

Edit: also I like how you basically told me something I already know in the first half of your response and then go on to give me a lecture about not being neurotic. I can feel the smugness radiating from how you wrote your response.

 

[ReportingBugs]

Me and graves were trying to fix the problem so we could push blue, otherwise our troopers wont help and we will just face tank the barracks damage, which is a bad idea unless we have our full builds and much higher level. If you watch the replay i asked doorman and victor to both help since they might be able to reach the minion undergound with their bell or the aoe damage, but when i asked they completely ignored me, basically allowing blue to be fucked. That is why I said doorman and victor are both assholes since they could indeed see my messages asking for help but they didnt.

And viscious is just wrong here, it is game breaking since blue is basically impossible to push until late game when we are tankier, and despite us trying to figure out how to it so they don't have this unfair advantage, we were ignored by our own team and the enemy team. I understand the enemy team ignoring, but my own team ignoring something that gives us a big disadvantage is stupid. We were just lucky we already got the walker so low that we didn't need the trooper.

You can say I fed the troll. I don't really care if this guy strokes his ego about me trying to figure out how to not have my game ruined by this bug for future reference since I see other posts about this bug from over 3 weeks ago. I'd rather know how to counter this bug since it might take more time before they actually address this issue. It is possible that this bug could happen at an even worse area if the enemy trooper falls into the rem tunnel on your side of the lane, although that didn't happen here obviously.

I mostly included his message in the post in the off chance some action was taken against him for being informed about the bug giving their side an advantage. Obviously its unlikely to happen, but I'd find it funny if it did.

Edit: also I like how you basically told me something I already know in the first half of your response and then go on to give me a lecture about not being neurotic. I can feel the smugness radiating from how you wrote your response.

You are treating it as if they are deliberately invoking the bug on purpose to gain a win. Like I said, by your loose definition of bug abusing, either your team or the enemy team will be bug abusing - which is a lose lose on either side. That is quite unfair and a serious accusation to make of someone. You should think very carefully. An incredibly disgusting thing to do.

"I mostly included his message in the post in the off chance some action was taken against him for being informed about the bug giving their side an advantage. Obviously its unlikely to happen, but I'd find it funny if it did." You said it here. That is malicious what you are wanting - especially when you are lying by omittance. That is why I went to see further, as I was initially on your side only to realise, that well, you're lying (by omittance).

Trying to threaten people with reports to do what YOU want is NOT okay. It is an incredibly heinous thing to do. The bell won't be able to go through (or the bullet), and doing that would put things more at a disadvantage and hassle if anything. Just seems more viable to just take the loss and move on. Acting this neurotic about it isn't appropriate.

Smugness? You're disgusting in your conduct. And it is embarassing. Do not twist things. You're more problematic than the LowTierAyatollah guy! We don't need bullshitters and people who bully and twist things to get someone permanently banned, for just pulling your leg for being neurotic. So yes. You deserved being mocked and rage baited. End of conversation. Learn from this.

 

[roal]

You are treating it as if they are deliberately invoking the bug on purpose to gain a win. Like I said, by your loose definition of bug abusing, either your team or the enemy team will be bug abusing - which is a lose lose on either side. That is quite unfair and a serious accusation to make of someone. You should think very carefully. An incredibly disgusting thing to do.

"I mostly included his message in the post in the off chance some action was taken against him for being informed about the bug giving their side an advantage. Obviously its unlikely to happen, but I'd find it funny if it did." You said it here. That is malicious what you are wanting - especially when you are lying by omittance. That is why I went to see further, as I was initially on your side only to realise, that well, you're lying (by omittance).

Trying to threaten people with reports to do what YOU want is NOT okay. It is an incredibly heinous thing to do. The bell won't be able to go through (or the bullet), and doing that would put things more at a disadvantage and hassle if anything. Just seems more viable to just take the loss and move on. Acting this neurotic about it isn't appropriate.

Smugness? You're disgusting in your conduct. And it is embarassing. Do not twist things. You're more problematic than the LowTierAyatollah guy! We don't need bullshitters and people who bully and twist things to get someone permanently banned, for just pulling your leg for being neurotic. So yes. You deserved being mocked and rage baited. End of conversation. Learn from this.

How did I lie by omission? Is it when I said "knowingly exploited"? In retrospect I shouldn't have used that wording. We explained what the bug was so he knew, but I guess "exploited" implies he caused it. While in game, I was under the assumption graves was right that bug reporting was to be taken seriously and bannable if not done, which is why I suggested the idea to report others for not letting us figure out if there was a way to fix the problem. After reading your first post, however, I realized that you are probably right that reporting would have been the improper action to do. I said "off chance" because it would be left to the discretion of the person that reads the report, and if he did receive a temp ban it would have been because that person felt like there was a reason to do so.

You said permanently banned. I don't believe I said I wanted the guy permanently banned. If I did, then that is wrong, and he wouldn't deserve that. If players who exploit bugs get permanently banned, then it was wrong to suggest reporting him for that, because I don't think he would deserve to be permanently banned for a bug he didn't cause.