Balancing

[kylebmguy]

You people can actually do a better job with this balancing bullshit. You people think its okay for bebop to hook someone from 3000 miles away??? You people think its okay for characters to deal 5k damage in 3 shots or abilities and take no damage, You people think its okay to have the worlds shittiest fucking match making, You idiots thin k its okay for a hero like wraith to do nothing all game for the first 30 minutes, You people think its okay for infernus to deal 200 gun damage and 1200 after burn, You people think its okay that yamato can go through walls, You people think its okay for mcginnis to do be asupport a tank and a fucking carry all in the same game. You people think its okay for spirit nuke to be in this game for a whole fucking year. You people think its okay for slam attacks to drag people out of the air. You people think its okay for counterspell to counter ults, You people think its okay for juggernaut to have 0 cooldown and fuck gun players over, You people think its okay for melee life steal to heal people for 1000 damage, You people think its okay for kelvion to move at the speed of light and deal 1000's of damage with an ice beam, You people think its opkay for mo and krill to move at the speed of light, You think its okay for bebop to move at the speed of light, You people think its okay for pocket to oneshot you, You think its okay for arctic blast and cold front being way too ovber powered. Youre okay with calico 1 shotting people and living for ever. You people are okay with shiv executing someone at 1200 hp your okay with blood letting youre okay with dumbing down movement, Youre ok with talon doing 1k damage per charged arrow, You people are okay with fucking with the very players helping you people out trying to make this game better, and we all just get fucking slapped in the fucking face. Hero's like wraith and victor deserve to be apart of the fucking game. But both those heroes arnt allowed to fucking play the game for 20-30 minutes. You people are FUCKING terrible at balancing this game. You people are FUCKING terrible at match making this game. There are so many things that should have been changed. or adjusted. But what do you people do? Nothing.

If you people arnt going to put the time the players deserve into the balancing and doing it right, Than take this game offline until its ion a better state. Because i am SICK of getting pissed off over the SAME THINGS EVERY DAY! WEEK AFTER WEEK AND NOTHING IS EVER CHANGED! Oh goodie you people made some map changes. Cool how working on the state of the game? That should be just as important as what ever else is being worked on, I mean game mechanics match making and balancing??!? THATS THE WHOLE GAME RIGHT THERE NO ONE IS GOING TO GIVE A FUCK HOW NICE THE MAP LOOKS IF THE GAME PLAYS LIKE GARBAGE! IVE HAD IT! THERE BETTER BE A FIX TO THIS MATCH MAKING NEXT UPDATE OR IM FUCKING OUT!

 

[Playeroth]

You people can actually do a better job with this balancing bullshit. You people think its okay for bebop to hook someone from 3000 miles away??? You people think its okay for characters to deal 5k damage in 3 shots or abilities and take no damage, You people think its okay to have the worlds shittiest fucking match making, You idiots thin k its okay for a hero like wraith to do nothing all game for the first 30 minutes, You people think its okay for infernus to deal 200 gun damage and 1200 after burn, You people think its okay that yamato can go through walls, You people think its okay for mcginnis to do be asupport a tank and a fucking carry all in the same game. You people think its okay for spirit nuke to be in this game for a whole fucking year. You people think its okay for slam attacks to drag people out of the air. You people think its okay for counterspell to counter ults, You people think its okay for juggernaut to have 0 cooldown and fuck gun players over, You people think its okay for melee life steal to heal people for 1000 damage, You people think its okay for kelvion to move at the speed of light and deal 1000's of damage with an ice beam, You people think its opkay for mo and krill to move at the speed of light, You think its okay for bebop to move at the speed of light, You people think its okay for pocket to oneshot you, You think its okay for arctic blast and cold front being way too ovber powered. Youre okay with calico 1 shotting people and living for ever. You people are okay with shiv executing someone at 1200 hp your okay with blood letting youre okay with dumbing down movement, Youre ok with talon doing 1k damage per charged arrow, You people are okay with fucking with the very players helping you people out trying to make this game better, and we all just get fucking slapped in the fucking face. Hero's like wraith and victor deserve to be apart of the fucking game. But both those heroes arnt allowed to fucking play the game for 20-30 minutes. You people are FUCKING terrible at balancing this game. You people are FUCKING terrible at match making this game. There are so many things that should have been changed. or adjusted. But what do you people do? Nothing.

If you people arnt going to put the time the players deserve into the balancing and doing it right, Than take this game offline until its ion a better state. Because i am SICK of getting pissed off over the SAME THINGS EVERY DAY! WEEK AFTER WEEK AND NOTHING IS EVER CHANGED! Oh goodie you people made some map changes. Cool how working on the state of the game? That should be just as important as what ever else is being worked on, I mean game mechanics match making and balancing??!? THATS THE WHOLE GAME RIGHT THERE NO ONE IS GOING TO GIVE A FUCK HOW NICE THE MAP LOOKS IF THE GAME PLAYS LIKE GARBAGE! IVE HAD IT! THERE BETTER BE A FIX TO THIS MATCH MAKING NEXT UPDATE OR IM FUCKING OUT!

its an alpha game. Not released. Bebop uses neon prime model. Feedbacks goes to https://forums.playdeadlock.com/forums/general-gameplay.2/

 

[kylebmguy]

its an alpha game. Not released. Bebop uses neon prime model. Feedbacks goes to https://forums.playdeadlock.com/forums/general-gameplay.2/

I dont fucking acre where feedback goes, They dont listen to it anyways. And alphs sure, that means they should be actively working on the balance of the game not just map changes. But they want to open this game up to the public and dont maintain the integrity of the point of why its open in the first place. What the FUCK is the point of feed back if the matches are un playable? Whats the point of feed back when they constantly ignore things players hate. Its stupid they are stupid.

 

[Playeroth]

I dont fucking acre where feedback goes, They dont listen to it anyways. And alphs sure, that means they should be actively working on the balance of the game not just map changes. But they want to open this game up to the public and dont maintain the integrity of the point of why its open in the first place. What the FUCK is the point of feed back if the matches are un playable? Whats the point of feed back when they constantly ignore things players hate. Its stupid they are stupid.

the game wont be released any time soon. You are overreacting. Stop.

 

[WolfgangVonArmstrong]

He isn't overreacting. The balancing is quite shit when it's all out of your control. People feel like shit because having random character selection becomes a roulette wheel to see who has OP characters and who doesn't. Your ignoring and disregarding the complaints like they're nothing is bad in itself.

I feel horrible after losing a game because it's simply all just chance at this point. Characters like Kelvin, Pocket, Vicktor, Moe, Mina, and Shiv feel so unhealthy to fight that it just feels like a stomp, and at this point it just feels like, "Wow, I don't have any of the meta characters in my team; guess I'll just lose," and when you win, it's always a stomp without really feeling like you earned it. It's literally playing roulette. Not to mention that the midboss gives and does too much for such an easy thing to kill. Games are over by 18 to 28 minutes, and most late-game carries are put in the dust, not to mention too many items that do too much to completely cancel out characters. Counterspell being the most heinous in this case, characters like Lash, Wraith, Bebop, and Greytalon are just completely negated because you pressed one button at the right time. No good interaction in that, just cancelling people's whole kit for 3,200 souls.

The game not being released is a horrible argument; it feels like a crutch to prevent any real reviews from hitting the Steam page, and you can't be promoting the game with comics and tournaments and not expect criticism, that is just unreasonable for a competitive game. It's just a sticker placed next to the game so it can always be fallen upon as an excuse. If any other company would do such a thing, they would be criticized and held to the same bar. Why is this any different? Treating Valve like it's an indie company—so many resources at their disposal, yet the community is being ignored on these balance problems. It's going to be killed if they don't get their shit together; look at the creative assembly. I love the characters, story, and aesthetic, but the gameplay has become so boring and chance-based that it's kind of disappointing.

 

[daavimachaado]

is this a copypasta HAHAHAHA

 

[BossBaragon]

He isn't overreacting. The balancing is quite shit when it's all out of your control. People feel like shit because having random character selection becomes a roulette wheel to see who has OP characters and who doesn't. Your ignoring and disregarding the complaints like they're nothing is bad in itself.

I feel horrible after losing a game because it's simply all just chance at this point. Characters like Kelvin, Pocket, Vicktor, Moe, Mina, and Shiv feel so unhealthy to fight that it just feels like a stomp, and at this point it just feels like, "Wow, I don't have any of the meta characters in my team; guess I'll just lose," and when you win, it's always a stomp without really feeling like you earned it. It's literally playing roulette. Not to mention that the midboss gives and does too much for such an easy thing to kill. Games are over by 18 to 28 minutes, and most late-game carries are put in the dust, not to mention too many items that do too much to completely cancel out characters. Counterspell being the most heinous in this case, characters like Lash, Wraith, Bebop, and Greytalon are just completely negated because you pressed one button at the right time. No good interaction in that, just cancelling people's whole kit for 3,200 souls.

The game not being released is a horrible argument; it feels like a crutch to prevent any real reviews from hitting the Steam page, and you can't be promoting the game with comics and tournaments and not expect criticism, that is just unreasonable for a competitive game. It's just a sticker placed next to the game so it can always be fallen upon as an excuse. If any other company would do such a thing, they would be criticized and held to the same bar. Why is this any different? Treating Valve like it's an indie company—so many resources at their disposal, yet the community is being ignored on these balance problems. It's going to be killed if they don't get their shit together; look at the creative assembly. I love the characters, story, and aesthetic, but the gameplay has become so boring and chance-based that it's kind of disappointing.

Because this game is not currently in a true, playable state. It's in a testing phase.

Are you insane enough to think the released version of Deadlock wouldn't even include drafting?

Their objective is to test things out and gather player feedback about things so they can gradually move forward. Not listen to 1 person's opinion on the meta and "fix it". It's obvious the game needs work, but this isn't really useful now.

I dont fucking acre where feedback goes, They dont listen to it anyways. And alphs sure, that means they should be actively working on the balance of the game not just map changes. But they want to open this game up to the public and dont maintain the integrity of the point of why its open in the first place. What the FUCK is the point of feed back if the matches are un playable? Whats the point of feed back when they constantly ignore things players hate. Its stupid they are stupid.

This game is not "open to the public", are you sniffing paint? It's in early access and it's also free. You're actually being a crybaby who gets offered a tour at an candy factory where they're testing out new candies and you're complaining about how terrible the candies are and that you deserve to have better candies. If you don't like the candy, be quiet, leave, and come back when the candies are actually released. Then if you want to talk about how terrible the devs are at listening to you, you can do it.

I've studied game design and it's a lot more complicated than just "fix hero valve". I know so from experience.