We can no longer quickly upgrade abilities with the new Extra Info (ALT) Menu.

[angryponystar]

We can no longer use custom key combinations to upgrade abilities.

with the menu changes, you can no longer bind the key combinations to buttons that are not ALT, SHIFT or CTRL. This hurts players with split keyboards or different preferences.

I used to have the Extra Info menu bound to 'v'. I am now forced to use ALT to upgrade my skills, which wouldn't be a big deal if my first ability wasn't bound to TAB, because and I now ALT+TAB out of the game when upgrading my first skill!

Please allow for the option to upgrade the skill as long as the Extra options menu is open. Forcing the use of ALT (or SHIFT or Ctrl, both of which are out of reach from my thumb) is very limiting.

 

[Vastarien]

- Upgrade ability keys are now customizable (Current defaults are ALT+1, ALT+2, etc)

I just tested setting ability upgrades to Tab+1, Tab+2, etc. and it worked, but maybe something else is happening to prevent it for others.

Not sure if this is what you meant, but I also set my extra info to V, upgrades to Tab+1 etc and that worked, if you wanted that for some reason.

I did notice that if you hit the key combo too quickly it might only register the second key and not the first. For example hitting Tab+1 quickly might only map '1'. But it works when waiting a moment between button presses.

Settings > Keybinds > Ability Keybinds

 

[angryponystar]

- Upgrade ability keys are now customizable (Current defaults are ALT+1, ALT+2, etc)

I just tested setting ability upgrades to Tab+1, Tab+2, etc. and it worked, but maybe something else is happening to prevent it for others.

Not sure if this is what you meant, but I also set my extra into to V, upgrades to Tab+1 etc and that worked, if you wanted that for some reason.

I did notice that if you hit the key combo too quickly it might only register the second key and not the first. For example hitting Tab+1 quickly might only map '1'. But it works when waiting a moment between button presses.

Settings > Keybinds > Ability Keybinds

You did not read that properly. My first ability is bound to TAB, not the ability upgrade button. I use TAB, Q, E and F for abilities.
Since I am forced to use ALT to upgrade abilities, upgrading my first skill is the ALT+TAB combination.

 

[Vastarien]

These settings below are working for me, but the catch is that it doesn't open the extra info window. So while the ability does upgrade and the keys I chose to test with worked, I can't actually see what level the ability is until I open the extra info view, so that's awkward. It would definitely be nice to still see the ability steps when you hit the upgrade combo/key.

I set:
ability 1 = tab
ability 2 = q
ability 3 = e
ability 4 = f
upgrade 1 = alt+1
upgrade 2 = alt+2
upgrade 3 = alt+3
upgrade 4 = alt+4
extra info = v

 

[Vastarien]

I think I might see what you mean now. If you set the extra info keybind to V, then you cannot set the upgrade ability keybind to V+1
You're right, only being able to use a combo of ALT+*, CTRL+*, or SHIFT+* for upgrades isn't great.

 

[moyiniw170]

Previously I was binding the ALT button to mouse-5 to level up abilities, notably the mouse buttons don't seem to be valid modifier pairs to level an ability, so it is simply is no longer possible to bind leveling up to a mouse-modifier key.

 

[angryponystar]

I think I might see what you mean now. If you set the extra info keybind to V, then you cannot set the upgrade ability keybind to V+1
You're right, only being able to use a combo of ALT+*, CTRL+*, or SHIFT+* isn't great.

Exactly, and thanks for the tip.
I'm already doing something similar as a workaround, using Alt to upgrade abilities, but I set my first ability to be Alt+1 for now. Setting your ALT key to also be the scoreboard allows you to read the tooltips as well.
Really awkward.

 

[nichaes1721]

Yeah, I made a separate post about this as well. It's a weird decision to limit the keybinds like this, I would usually use E+1 etc but now that's not possible.

 

[Nightmarian]

Is this without any changes to alt? For some reason I could learn abilities via alt + ability key (by holding it down), but can't upgrade abilities that way, I have to hit tab and click.

 

[PurpleBurgers]

Is this without any changes to alt? For some reason I could learn abilities via alt + ability key (by holding it down), but can't upgrade abilities that way, I have to hit tab and click.

same issue here, learn first ability with alt+Mouse5 then have to tab click every other one and to upgrade, which is very clunky especially during combat

 

[Stoonk!]

Same issue. I have it set to caps lock and can no longer upgrade abilities with it

 

[Iggy]

I entered a bot match and I genuinely don't understand what is happening. It sounds like something has been changed but I don't quite follow what.

I expect when I hold ALT to get a free cursor. I can no longer pick any skills or abilities, draw on map, etc.

 

[Nightmarian]

I entered a bot match and I genuinely don't understand what is happening. It sounds like something has been changed but I don't quite follow what.

I expect when I hold ALT to get a free cursor. I can no longer pick any skills or abilities, draw on map, etc.

Tab is now the free cursor button, not alt.

 

[Iggy]

Thanks. Makes sense then why I did not discover this. It's not possible to press that button with my mostly default button configuration while actually playing the game. Sounds like it needs to be reverted.

 

[Nightmarian]

Thanks. Makes sense then why I did not discover this. It's not possible to press that button with my mostly default button configuration while actually playing the game. Sounds like it needs to be reverted.

They just shifted some functionality over. You can rebind your scoreboard key to whatever you want. I think free cursor is better on tab but I would really like to upgrade abilities with alt again, not just learn them.

 

[Iggy]

In the tutorial it says alt+click so umm... I'm just not certain what was intended here. If this was intentional, it's a completely regressive change forcing players to do something in a really unnatural way. If my fingers are on WASD or ESDF, how exactly am I going to move + hold tab? I'm also out of buttons to assign because the game has too many buttons to assign, of which many require the ability to hit while being able to have full movement.

Scoreboard key is something I use when my character is KO'ed. With the multiple functionality of ALT, I'm uncertain what happens if I assign scoreboard to ALT but I'll try that I guess until it breaks.