Something off about the new update

[fadidroubi11]

1- I truly believe there is something OFF about the new map. Mid lane doesn't feel like mid. Its too clustered with structures and the position of the walkers with this "Z" shape feels hideous. I also miss the solo lane, there are many games when I am forced to play 2vs1 because my teammate either keep dying or farming jungle.

2- Secret shop at the old map used to be so accessible and easy to access. The new secret shop is not, it is placed in areas where it is too risky and far to access mid to late game. There is many time when I am forced to go back base to purchase item instead of using secret shop.

3- Can we please for the love of God, reduce the amount of jungle camps. Players now are in jungle most of the game farming because of the big amount of camps and how frequent they respawn.

4- PLEASE make Guardian and Walkers do actual damage to heroes and troops. They are so weak, you can dive people with no punishment even in early game!

5- As deadlock community we can fairly say that we are tired if spirt being the dominant build, please rebuff gun to be equal as spirit.

6- Too many stuns, slows, debuffs and the list goes on. I feel all players build debuff remover as a mandatory item even the pro scene, please find a way to balance it.

I love this game and what you guys are doing, it finally broke the battle Royale era. But I am start losing fun as things are getting out of hand from bugs to over healing heros to matchmaking issues... I still have high hopes so please Yoshi if you are seeing this. Consider some of my feedback!

Thank you!

 

[dankomancer]

https://forums.playdeadlock.com/forums/map-gameplay.86/ here man

 

[micbenso66]

1- I truly believe there is something OFF about the new map. Mid lane doesn't feel like mid. Its too clustered with structures and the position of the walkers with this "Z" shape feels hideous. I also miss the solo lane, there are many games when I am forced to play 2vs1 because my teammate either keep dying or farming jungle.

2- Secret shop at the old map used to be so accessible and easy to access. The new secret shop is not, it is placed in areas where it is too risky and far to access mid to late game. There is many time when I am forced to go back base to purchase item instead of using secret shop.

3- Can we please for the love of God, reduce the amount of jungle camps. Players now are in jungle most of the game farming because of the big amount of camps and how frequent they respawn.

4- PLEASE make Guardian and Walkers do actual damage to heroes and troops. They are so weak, you can dive people with no punishment even in early game!

5- As deadlock community we can fairly say that we are tired if spirt being the dominant build, please rebuff gun to be equal as spirit.

6- Too many stuns, slows, debuffs and the list goes on. I feel all players build debuff remover as a mandatory item even the pro scene, please find a way to balance it.

I love this game and what you guys are doing, it finally broke the battle Royale era. But I am start losing fun as things are getting out of hand from bugs to over healing heros to matchmaking issues... I still have high hopes so please Yoshi if you are seeing this. Consider some of my feedback!

Thank you!

I have not seen a post that I agreed with as much as this one. I played 22 matches this weekend. Over all win rate was 55% and yesterday was 70% (7-3).

1. The z shape mid actually makes it more difficult to defend it as they get to stand on the other side of a building. It also feels weird when trying to go back to base from mid. Your wire isnt in the same place on both sides of the map because of the curve. On one side, its actually faster to just run all the way in because of where the wire is. I

I personally hate solo lane but I dont have anything against it existing.

2. This is based off of dota's secret shop. I hate the awkward and dangerous location in both game. At least in this game (for now), the secret shop doesnt have exclusive items. But i too would simply go back to base more often than not.

3. Jungle in this game is weird. I think its because, like Dota, there isnt a dedicated jungle role like smite and lol have. I would love for them to make mid lane Solo and the 6th player is a jungler who roams and takes all the camps as their income. The way it is now you are fighting your team mates for income. I dont know how often i am running to a camp and someone insta clears it before I can even touch it and so I just wasted my time. I believe this is also why I am usually behind on souls compared to others. Luckily, I dont think my main is super item dependent.

4. Yes. Been saying this even before the map change. No reason why pre-lvl 5 anyone should be able to survive for more than just a few seconds before its dangerous. Ive suggested the damage be true damage that ramps per second and that guardians are no longer parry-able. Ive never played any moba in the past 14-15ish years where everyone can just turn off the towers.

5. I love spirit, but I dont think every hero should have a spirit build. I think this is a combination of design and scaling. Everyone scales with spirit and it shouldnt be that way.

6. again, yes. Debuffer is permanently on my builds no matter who i am playing. Not only are there too many ccs in hero kits, but also items with more cc. Yes, sometimes its necessary to have some of those items like Knockdown for specific heroes but there are times where i get knocked up 5 times in a row and cant move, get hexed/silenced/cursed so cant cast to escape and get 100-0'ed with no chance. Then there is the issue of the game auto making comps and your team has no cc and theirs has all of it. How are you supposed to win those games? Literally all 6 people buy remover and unstoppable and e-shift and metal skin?

7. I was going to add something but cant remember it now. Ill edit if i do lol.

 

[fadidroubi11]

Good reply, it shows that players are feeling the same way!

i believe my points or yours will fix almost 90% of the players concerns/complaints.

 

[micbenso66]

Good reply, it shows that players are feeling the same way!

i believe my points or yours will fix almost 90% of the players concerns/complaints.

yea, there are definitely issues with the map. But there were issues with the other one too. Most of the complaints are from people who just simply dont want/like change.

In general, I do believe the 3 lane map is overall better versus the 4 lane. Thats the main change.

On top of that, its literally impossible to make everyone happy and there will always be people complaining about something (including us).