BEBOP IS THE WEAKEST, USELESS, MOST BUGGED AND NERFED HERO IN GAME.

hdk

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I love playing Bebop. He's the most fun guy in the game, and I don't mean to say he's totally weak. He's not, and with the right skill level he can win. But basically EVERY aspect of the game is broken. It's annoying.

Let's just list all the actions you can do in the game on this hero. What options do you have?

1. You can walk and run, but:


To have normal mobility in the game you want to buy Fleet Foot, and this item does not work on the hero as it does on others. When shooting you will be slowed down, although the item should remove this.

BROKEN.

2. You can jump and move, but


When climbing obstacles, your double jump simply won't work 20% of the time even with full stamina, and your wall jump won't work for no reason.

BROKEN.

3. You can shoot, but


Your shooting range is limited and at the first levels you can't finish off a creep, soul or enemy because your attack range will be just tiny.

You can't start shooting quickly because you have to prepare an attack per second before the laser starts working.

You can prepare the laser in advance, but this reduces your POV and you see less.

You can't shoot at multiple targets alternately, be it enemies or creep farms because of the shot preparation, so you have to switch from target to target without releasing the attack and this wastes your ammo, you need increased ammo.

You can't quickly shoot at vases and boxes to see what's there, because the attack is prepared first.

You can't immediately start shooting after using items, such as Knockdown or Slowing Hex, you will hear a sound, but there will be no shots. You will lose 2-3 seconds on this.

BROKEN.

4. You can uppercut, but


You can't throw a creep with it, because it will get stuck in any surface near it.

You can't shoot after the uppercut, you will hear the sound, but the attack will not happen, to prevent this from happening you have to have a damn good sense of button timing, otherwise this bug will ruin every game for you.

BROKEN.

5. You can bomb, but


The explosion range of the bomb when stuck to yourself will be smaller than it should be.

The bomb will target anything but your enemy.

You will stick the bomb, hear the sound of it going off, and then find out that there was nothing and lose gameplay.

BROKEN.

6. You can hook, but


If there is even the slightest obstacle between you and the enemy, the enemy will get stuck in it and you can't do anything about it. It looks so absurd. The entire community is crying over Bebop's hooks, not realizing that right now you have an extremely small window of opportunity to effectively use this ability due to dashes, creeps, and obstacles.

BROKEN.

7. You can ult, but


Ultimate laser has an AoE cast on the ground that just doesn't work unless you have direct visual contact with the enemy. He's literally standing in front of you, you're suspended in midair and can't move, and he literally needs to take a step to the side and he'll just ignore all damage from your ult despite being right in the fucking purple circle from your laser. It's so ridiculous that 99% of players just don't use ult.

BROKEN.

8. You can use your combo-wombo , but


Let's just list the heroes that can avoid your combo with one button. All you have to do is spam your ability while you're flying on the hook and you won't care:

- Abrams. And you'll immediately become his target.
- Dynamo. Everything is clear here.
- Grey Talon. The asshole will just fly off into space immediately.
- Infernus. Besides, when he runs, you can't even pull him.
- Ivy. Fucking stone crap.
- Lash. The second skill and he's gone.
- McGinnis. How long will this wall be so strong?
- Mirage. Will immediately give you an infinitely long stun from the tornado. Cool.
- Mo & Krill. Invulnerable couple.
- Paradox. Whose wall is worse?
- Pocket. He'll just kill you right away with his suitcase.
- Shiv. What? Is he already behind you? Oh, no. He already killed you.
- Vindicta. I generally like flying characters. We need more of them.
- Viscous. There's a whole menu here.
- Wraith. Yeah, yeah. I have blink, what did you want?
There are a couple more that can just press the ultimate:
- Yamato. After all, invulnerability SHOULD NOT HAVE A LARGE COOLDOWN. Let him ALWAYS have his ultimate.
- Lady Geist. She's happy to be around, sweetie.

So, now we have 21 heroes, not counting Bebop himself. 17 of them easily avoid your combo and can just pee on your efforts if the enemy knows how to play.

80% of your enemies don't give a fuck about your combo. Still want to play Bebop?

BROKEN.


Look, I'm not saying the hero needs a buff. I just don't understand the constant whining from the community about nerfing the hero. I'm willing to learn and adapt to challenges. Just show me another hero that's as broken and weak in the game. I don't need buffs. I like everything. Just fix what's broken and then we'll talk again.

Enjoy the game, everyone. Peace.
 
ONE MORE THING ABOUT BEBOP!

For no apparent reason, you can't use any of your abilities while crouching or sliding. I'd understand if it was a hook, but you can't plant a bomb or uppercut while sliding. Every other hero can.

Thanks, Yoshi <3
 
wtf?

Bipop is a Tier S hero who need to be nerfed together with broken Yamato and overfbuffed Vindicta.

Why?

Because you do not have debuf remover early in the game and those double granades are almost insta kill.
 
wtf?

Bipop is a Tier S hero who need to be nerfed together with broken Yamato and overfbuffed Vindicta.

Why?

Because you do not have debuf remover early in the game and those double granades are almost insta kill.
I don't know about that.

  • His ult is very much broken right now. Unless you see the people the AOE damage doesn't work.
  • 4 or 5 heroes outright can use a quick charge ability to remove or negate the bombs. One of them, Dynamo, can do it for the entire team. Being in lane with one of these heroes is brutal especially when solo lane because you will not build your bomb stacks.
  • You can hook a hero, try to bomb them, and maybe again, but likely the bomb is going to go on a minion or friendly hero you are not even looking at.
  • I don't even buy debuff remover to deal with Bebop. Just keep your distance because his gun has terrible falloff, and it makes it easier to dodge his hooks. Pay attention to your spirit armor and get the more useful divine barrier. Cast it on people that got bombed and because they didn't take damage, no stacks.
I will say very late game though once fully spirit loaded a good bebop is not only annoying but very dangerous with the bombs if he's allowed to stack them.
 
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wtf?

Bipop is a Tier S hero who need to be nerfed together with broken Yamato and overfbuffed Vindicta.

Why?

Because you do not have debuf remover early in the game and those double granades are almost insta kill.
based on your previous forum posts your opinion should be invalidated, any hero that win a game against you, you consider OP
there are so many ways to deal with bebop bombs
 
Guys, I wrote the part about combos and ways to avoid them only because I see constant whining about Bebop being incredibly strong. I was just trying to show that 80% of heroes have ways to avoid combos.

Of course, there are game moments, timings, the ability to wait for skills and only then use your own. This is all game strategy.

But the point of my post is to draw attention to the HUGE NUMBER OF FUCKING BUGS in the game for this hero. Literally everything is broken.
 
wtf?

Bipop is a Tier S hero who need to be nerfed together with broken Yamato and overfbuffed Vindicta.

Why?

Because you do not have debuf remover early in the game and those double granades are almost insta kill.
To buy double grenades you need at least 15k networth, and if you haven't collected at least 40 stacks, they will be very weak. Strong bebops don't play through double bombs. They become relevant just when most are already buying spirit armor, debuff remover and other means of protection.
 
  • 4 or 5 heroes outright can use a quick charge ability to remove or negate the bombs. One of them, Dynamo, can do it for the entire team. Being in lane with one of these heroes is brutal especially when solo lane because you will not build your bomb stacks.
There is not a single "Bomb Avoidance" ability in the game that has a shorter cooldown than the bomb itself. You would almost have a point if it weren't for the fact he gets his hook back for free on Uppercut, making it stupidly easy to hook -> bomb -> uppercut -> wait out the "Bomb Dodge" -> Hook again because they're at close range and you know exactly where they'll pop up (sole exception: Pocket coat + case) -> bomb. Given that everyone building Bombbop does Echo Shard, Bomb having insanely low downtime is a given, and even without ES it has a very short cooldown.

OP is super off the mark, though, Bebop might have a few bugs (and the fact that OP posted about all these bugs without providing a single clip, image, or timestamp is just lazy) but he is not even close to being "weak". His kit is absolutely insane right now, and his ult's weakness is basically just that Bomb is so much better for spirit damage that you have no reason to even invest in his ult-- which is a problem with his kit being overtuned, not his ult being weak.
 
wtf?

Bipop is a Tier S hero who need to be nerfed together with broken Yamato and overfbuffed Vindicta.

Why?

Because you do not have debuf remover early in the game and those double granades are almost insta kill.
the fact that you are talking about bombs actually making everything worse becouse its not meta build. The meta build is gun bebop + silence + curse. In late game one hook, one curse and you dying instantly. Hook with 10sec cd and 7 sec with items making those cheasy kills very easy to achive. Also bebop one of the best charachters by looking on his vanila stats (650 health, 41 health grouth and 10% bullet resist).
And this hero is very problematic right now, its very toxic. It should be never been added in a way it looks right now.
Devs should start at least from nerfing his AMP stats from uppercut and hook and see how he going to fell after that. Its still gonna be OP in late game, but at least less opressive early.
 
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