Why would anyone want to be eternus? Have you looked at them play? That's straight up miserable. I wish eternus upon you.
Do you not...? Have you actually looked at your teammate's builds once in your life? Even in Initiate LII you still get mostly idiots building left to right.
Right... I meant more position 3 and 2 because only smooth brained individuals enjoy position 1 but clearly I forgot I was speaking to a victor main.
why would anyone like to be high rated in a very competitive, high skill game? hmm i wonder. and yes i have watched them play, i watch live games in the client to study and learn when im too lazy to play
Maybe it was tolerable in dota since the skill increase is very gradual but every game I've been a high rank in has made me quit because I like having fun and those people are joyless creatures. For context, I've been high rank in Marvel Rivals, Fortnite, Apex Legends, was only Ancient in dota, Hunt Showdown... Can't remember the rest. Anyways, you truly do not know how awful it is being high rank in a shooter. I made a meme about it. Everyone agrees.
Well if you want to improve you should make a habit of that, looking at items is a very important skill to have, even if it's your teammates. And then you'll see it every single time your teammate is doing a left to right build. Which there's always one in every game.
It's legitimately optimizing farm routes for 25 minutes and avoiding interacting with the enemy team until you can solo carry the game, it's incredibly boring compared to what the offlaner and the mid gets up to.
people can be insufferable joyless creatures in *every* rank of *every* game. there are people who have been playing league for 10+ years and are still stuck in low bronze and silver ranks because they dont know how to improve and those players will also flame and rage just as much as top tier master or diamond players. ive spectated and coached my friends in low rank dota and watched people rage in those games the same way they do in high rank dota. there are people raging in deadlock, a closed alpha game with only two game modes.
sure buddy, the 3000 people upvoting your *meme* post surely represent the thoughts of every deadlock player! even yoshi agrees with their incredible logic!
a habit of what? presuming theyre blindly following a guide?
i told you i already look at their items and builds, i already said that i see enough build diversity and build adaptations in my games. i also said that i communicate with my teammates about items.
heres the last game i played:
i wouldnt expect less of a moronic take from someone who couldnt get out of ancient. there are plenty of characters you can play as pos 1 that can be incredibly active and influential early game. arteezy literally played pos 1 muerta earlier today and was 4/1 at 10 minutes and 10/2 at 20 minutes.
I mean they can bitch all they want it's funny watching them try to do things. It's legitimately tedious watching what eternus have to do just to play the game normally
That was a 4000 HP green abrams dying in literally one second off of a single venator shotgun stun to just gun damage. The clip was not sped up, I had to freeze frame it just so people could understood how much damage I took under a second.
Celeste but she might be using an older version of the build. You can clearly see she is left to right buying the Disco build.
(going to lane against a character she hard counters into a team with less than 1500 HP on each character)
maybe for you, im sure most of it second nature to them at point. and im sure a lot of them are still playing the game because they enjoy it, even if it is a lot of work. i thoroughly enjoyed playing micro intensive heroes like broodmother, chen, and enigma in dota, even at high mmr, mainly because it was very engaging and demanding.
and? whats your point? the two characters that built a lot of gun damage did a lot of gun damage? im shocked. ive died to a bebop double bombing me in less than a second for 3k damage before. does that make spirit bebop suddenly op?
nice try. i was celeste and i can assure i was not buying that build from left to right. this is my build at 18 minutes:
again whats your point? when you draft, were you unable to draft well enough that you couldnt pick pos 1s who would counter your lane? can pos 1s only fight early if the enemy only drafts squishies or something? he goes 15/1 as shadow fiend two games later in a 23 minute game. just because you seem to be only able to find success as pos 1 by hiding in the jungle for 25 mins and avoiding fights, doesnt mean other people do. many other pos 1 players are able to play actively and have strong impact on the game.
I see a lot of your posts and I don't know why you're coping so hard. If you have a 45% winrate you should stay in your same rank or demote. If the perfect scenario of a perfect match maker is adjusting you until you win half lose half of your games, then without you improving or declining, you should have a 50% winrate allowing for variance of course. 45% over 250 hours of Deadlock to be that low is a skill issue respectfully. I can take any account with any character with any amount of hours "hardstuck" with any build out of initiate in a single day. Initiate is literally the most noob you can be, if you can't 1v6 in initiate you belong there.
I'm not even the OP this guy just came to flex that he ranks up when he picks the 60% winrate character all because I mentioned you can get GM in Rivals with a 45% winrate. Complain at him for his cope, he's the victor player. Complain at yourself for somehow mistaking the guy with no profile pic with me. Stop bothering me with your inability to read words.
Ironic considering I said I’ve seen a lot of your posts. As in you’ve replied to this thread more than anyone else you slobbering low iq trog.
You said that climbing on anything but a m1 carry is impossible (incredibly laughable claim). After he proved you wrong, you then go and say that he only climbed playing OP heroes, all while saying incredibly questionable things about high elo being *uniquely* toxic and insufferable to play in (like low elo monkeys don't flame and shout racial slurs at each other at the same rate they breathe air).
I played Pudge, Techies, Kunkka, I really do not care for playing characters that require mechanical skill over technical skill.
They didn't, actually, I was a green abrams with some melee items. I had 4000 HP because we were just starting to get in the part of the match where people buy 6400 items. I had juggernaut and hunter's aura too, he had a 50% fire rate slow while he was doing htat. But the point is that if you ever played against anyone who knew how to aim you'd immediately understand why you don't want to play against anyone who can aim.
No, you were buying a slightly different but still incredibly similar build. I clearly said it wasn't *the* disco build but something similar to the disco build.
I'm not arteezy so I don't get pick priority...? Unless the meta changed significantly in the past 5 years the position 1 is definitely not the last guy to pick, it's always the mid.
You have mental health issues m8
(incredibly factual claim). After he said he climbed on the only spirit carry in the game* He climbed playing the highest winrate character in the entire game for 6 months straight* incredibly factual things* about the gameplay*
cool story man. irrelevant to the fact that high mmr games take more focus, attention, and skill
again, cool story. even yoshi was clowning on how dumb this train of logic is
incorrect, here's what you said:
are you chat banned? i had plenty of games where i asked for last pick and was given it.
Yeah it sure does make me wonder how the victor main ever got there. Surely you weren't just picking whatever the current 60% winrate character was, right? You had actual mains that you played that were not the highest winrate character during the current patch, right?
He also nerfed gun by almost 25% across the board after that post was made, so y'know, you pick what you want to believe. Surely Venator dropping to 45% winrate did not happen as a result of clips like that.
Yes, like an older version of the build would have, considering you're buying every other item on that build except that one. Say, a version of the build from around the time where torment pulse was nerfed so people reactively removed it from all their builds and replaced it with silence wave.
Yes and I'm sure you also give your teammates in deadlock item recommendations without them bitching and moaning and trying to throw. I'm gonna have to ask, what server do you play on? Because it's not a thing on NA and it,s not a thing on EU, so where do you find these people?
i played victor primarily because he does require less aim than other characters and gave me a similar play-style q to necrophos, a character i was familiar with and very much enjoyed. this has given me a lot of freedom to learn and focus less on aiming and focus more on other mechanics of the game like build optimization, movement tech, and learning how to play a shooter and position in a three dimensional environment and learning to aim will come naturally over time. but whatever man, you can sit there and shit on victor players or m1 players cause you think they're 'low skill' but a majority of the cast in this game isnt THAT hard to play
yea man, whatever you think. i already told you i played support and if you think there was sleeper 60% support picks then idk what to tell you. here's my last ranked games:
and which patch was this again?
half of those items are on other builds as well; its almost like they are good items on that character. and the only major nerf torment pulse got was a month after celsete even came out was where they nerfed the damage from 27+0.25 to 25+0.23, which is not a meaningful enough nerf to remove it or add to a build lol. did all the victors drop torment pulse after that? just accept the L that im not buying from a guide left to right. or please find this mythical version of the disco build with lightning scroll rush
yea im a generally friendly player and communicate well with my team. ive legit never said anything that caused a teammate in deadlock to throw, so i cant even imagine what youre saying to cause that reaction. you come across pretty agressive and rude, so im not surprised if you act like an asshole in chat and tend to flame your teammates and get surprised they dont recieve your feedback well. but if you treat people kindly, theyre more likely to be reciprocative to advice. 'hey im gonna get rebuttal, were against billy. maybe you should grab one' is something that you can say to suggest to you teammate to get a rebuttal without upsetting them. or for example. 'hey guys i got knock down but can we get one more?' comes across a lot friendlier than people who are going to complain and flame 'paige why dont you have fucking knockdown,' which is how i assume your commincate since you seem very likely to flame people for using guides you think are from certain creators you dislike or for having a build you deem to be a *clearly* L>R build.
Buddy I'm shitting on you specifically for acting like it's an accomplishment to have climbed to the "prestigious" rank of phantom using a character that just wins by default. Why do you have to pretend like you did anything special? You ain't in eternus, you ain't playing a hard character, and you ain't playing off-meta.
Dang, you right, it was merely a 20% gun nerf. That's totally different.
Yeah actually, torment pulse did stop being bought entirely for a few patches. Y'know, you can really tell you don't check items enough.
Except you claimed that you recommended items to them. And they are NA players. So they throw when you do that.
"You should buy this item" though I haven't said it in a while, on account of the fact that they throw basically every time.
Yeah you just come off as a saint. You are definitely not doing the exact same thing.
And then they don't do that, because they are Deadlock players, and they might also start throwing if you insist.
Oh yeah funny story I asked a Kelvin if he was gonna buy suppressor and his response was "do I look like a support" and then it took another guy explaining to him that it's not a support item for him to continue not buying it because he is not a support. Y'know, as deadlock players do.
you said mobas were 'notoriously alot harder to climb in' and i said its possible to climb and i demonstrated that i climbed to the highest rank in dota and have already climbed multiple tiers in deadlock as well.
it was only a -20% weapon damage bonus nerf at MAX weapon investment. that is, in fact, *totally different* from the change "nerf[ing] gun by almost 25% across the board." characters who weren't buying any gun items had their gun damage unaffected by this change and characters only hitting the 4.8 value spikes had their gun damage bonus only nerfed by 3% (49% -> 46%).
lol yea i hadnt seen any torment pulses on shiv, victor, calico, mo, apollo, yamato at all for the past two months after they nerfed it, totally. im glad they buffed it two weeks ago with +3% more melee resist. that's finally what made the item viable again!
user error
again, user error
i wasnt rude until you were
again, user error
real knee slapper here
stop it, stop it, youre killing me here!!! hahahahahah. thats a good one tell it again!
