Four reasons that must remove the deny green balls

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1, Removing the deny balls greatly enhances the intensity of the lane fight.

With deny balls, both sides are holding half their bullets to farm green balls, without deny, this half of the bullets would be hitting the opponent's head, looking for a kill opportunity. Even for aoe heroes, both side can compete fram efficiency.

2, Removing deny balls greatly enhances melee heroes, enriching the lane gameplay.

Still counter-intuitive. Removing deny balls actually enhances melee heroes because long-range cannot cut your economy from a long distance deny. Melee heroes can rely on cover to close in and find to kill, it can enrich the lane gameplay.

3, Reduce the pollution of green balls visual and audio effects. Especially in the late game when there are a lot of creeps and heroes fighting, the sky is full of green shit balls.

4, Greatly reduce the difficulty of the game, this is the first condition for games not to die.There are too many skills in deadlock already, shoot, movement, ability, items, and moba,there is no space for normal players to deny more. Its even two more skills than Dota, how a game harder than Dota can live nowadays?

Please give up deny, deny is killing this game.

Or, at least delete the green balls in ten minutes after the mid boss coming.
Or, at least just let melee punch deny, not with guns
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Chinese cs platform “5E” have uplined a model that con’t deny, its really relax to play but also excited to fight。Pelase change the deny to make deadlock easier.

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Here are the only sounds of 5% leaved players who adapted deny, it fells sorry for 95% players like me didt like deny and cant give our voice to the developers. Bullet hole theory is ture, please listen to normal players, the 95% quit player wont say delete deny here, because they deleted the game。
 
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Removing the deny mechanic would be crazy lol

Also, once you get to a certain skill level, it becomes mostly pointless to try and deny since the enemy will always secure before you, due to the owner advantage, so you're just wasting ammo trying. You're better off putting pressure on them instead of trying to deny
 
Removing the deny mechanic would be crazy lol

Also, once you get to a certain skill level, it becomes mostly pointless to try and deny since the enemy will always secure before you, due to the owner advantage, so you're just wasting ammo trying. You're better off putting pressure on them instead of trying to deny
"You're better off putting pressure on them instead of trying to deny"

soooooo, you kinda agree with the OP ?


imo denying/securing mechanic in 3rd pers FPS is shit, i hate it.
 
"You're better off putting pressure on them instead of trying to deny"

soooooo, you kinda agree with the OP ?


imo denying/securing mechanic in 3rd pers FPS is shit, i hate it.
I'm not agreeing that it should be removed altogether. It's still a skill check. If your opponent has terrible reaction time/aim you can deny majority of the souls. But if you're evenly matched then you switch to pressuring.

The deny mechanic is still nice for when you're able to steal souls when your opponent carelessly uses aoe effects to kill minions. Or if you're able to pressure them away from securing a soul, you can take it yourself.
 
its a snowball mechanic that is entirely based on reflex and APM, it has no place here. Theres skill in many areas of the game, but this crucial mechanic is entirely in the hands of who can sweat the most, also awfully exploitable by cheaters.

Deny mechanic worked in dota2, because it wasnt entirely based on reflex and APM, it was based on timing and tactical planning.
either deny mechanic should become similar to what it was in dota2 (so you could actually shoot own creeps at death door), or this dumb random trajectory orb thing that may or may not benefit you or your opponent needs to go.
 
The soul orbs encourage you to play closer because the most important factor to claiming them is distance. They give something both players can fight over even when one is hurt or outmatched. Otherwise, it'd be ideal to just play as far back as possible all the time.

"Melee" heroes still have a gun, and every gun has different pros and cons in regards to claiming souls. (And melee itself can claim souls without any chance to deny)
 
1, Removing the deny balls greatly enhances the intensity of the lane fight.

With deny balls, both sides are holding half their bullets to farm green balls, without deny, this half of the bullets would be hitting the opponent's head, looking for a kill opportunity. It is now happenning that both sides farm balls for ten minutes.

2, Removing deny balls greatly enhances melee heroes, enriching the lane gameplay.

Still counter-intuitive. Removing deny balls actually enhances melee heroes because long-range cannot cut your economy from a long distance deny. Melee heroes can rely on cover to close in and find to kill, and even sell blood to block bullets and prevent the enemy from farming. It can enrich the lane gameplay.

3, Reduce the pollution of green balls visual and audio effects. Especially in the late game when there are a lot of minions and a group of people fighting, the sky is full of green shit balls.

4, Greatly reduce the difficulty of the game, this is the first condition for the game not to die.There are too much skills in deadlock already, shoot, movement, ability, and moba,there is no space for normal players to deny more.

Pleaee give up deny, deny will kill this game.

Or, at least delete the green balls in ten minutes after the boss coming.
Or, ar least just let melee punch deny, not with guns.

Chinese cs platform “5E” have uplined a model that con’t deny, its really relax to play but also excited to fight。Pelase change the deny to make deadlock easier.
Chinese CS platform “5E” have uplined a model that con’t deny, its really relax to play but also excited to fight。Pelase change the deny to make deadlock easier.
 
1, Removing the deny balls greatly enhances the intensity of the lane fight.

With deny balls, both sides are holding half their bullets to farm green balls, without deny, this half of the bullets would be hitting the opponent's head, looking for a kill opportunity. It is now happenning that both sides farm balls for ten minutes.

2, Removing deny balls greatly enhances melee heroes, enriching the lane gameplay.

Still counter-intuitive. Removing deny balls actually enhances melee heroes because long-range cannot cut your economy from a long distance deny. Melee heroes can rely on cover to close in and find to kill, and even sell blood to block bullets and prevent the enemy from farming. It can enrich the lane gameplay.

3, Reduce the pollution of green balls visual and audio effects. Especially in the late game when there are a lot of minions and a group of people fighting, the sky is full of green shit balls.

4, Greatly reduce the difficulty of the game, this is the first condition for the game not to die.There are too much skills in deadlock already, shoot, movement, ability, and moba,there is no space for normal players to deny more.

Pleaee give up deny, deny will kill this game.

Or, at least delete the green balls in ten minutes after the mid boss coming.
Or, ar least just let melee punch deny, not with guns.

Chinese cs platform “5E” have uplined a model that con’t deny, its really relax to play but also excited to fight。Pelase change the deny to make deadlock easier.
Here are only sounds of 5% leaved players who adapted deny, it fells sorry for 95% players like me didt like deny and cant give our voice to developers.
 
I'd be happy to see it gone. As soon as the enemy starts denying, I think "oh great, a sweat".

It would be nice to not have to worry about it, frankly. Especially on characters with magazines that start out too small, like Warden.
I'd never touch this game again if they removed denial entirely.

Why though?
Is an in-built griefing mechanic really that important to you? This game has far more to offer than just that.
 
95%?who?
why you believe 95%?
who give your confidence!
170K to 17K online, you are one of 17K, the other 153K players, (actually maybe 1530K registered players),will not say delete deny here, because they delete the game. And you also doesnt care about their voice.
 
170K 到 17K 在线,你是 17K 之一,其他 153K 玩家(实际上可能是 1530K 注册玩家),不会在这里说删除拒绝,因为他们删除了游戏。而且你也不关心他们的声音。
如果你只是因为这个,那还有99%的玩家都要求保留csgo而不是要立刻更新cs2
 
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